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Mofference Times
Americas
UTC−12 12:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC−11 13:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC−10 (Hawaii) 14:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC−9 (AKST) 15:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC−8 (PST) 16:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC−7 (MST) 17:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC−6 (CST) 18:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC−5 (EST) 19:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC−4 (AST) 20:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC−3 21:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC−2 22:00 Saturday, February 11
Europe and Africa
UTC−1 23:00 Saturday, February 11
UTC/GMT 00:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+1 (CET) 01:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+2 (EET) 02:00 Sunday, February 12
Asia and Oceania
UTC+3 03:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+4 04:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+5 05:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+6 06:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+7 07:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+8 (AWST) 08:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+9 (KST) 09:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+10 (AEST) 10:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+11 (AEDT) 11:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+12 12:00 Sunday, February 12
UTC+13 (NZDT) 13:00 Sunday, February 12
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All Wookieepedians are invited to attend the occasional Wookieepedia mofference. Kindly don't be scared away by the name; we like to have all opinions at the meetings.

How to join the meeting

IRC: irc.freenode.net #wookieepedia

For a list of clients, see Wookieepedia:IRC. Freenode provides web access to our IRC channel via the freenode webchat gateway. Note that you will have to be identified with nickname services in order to enter the main channel.

(Hint: You only get 16 characters in your IRC nickname.)

Users who use the CGI:IRC gateway to attend the Mofference may experience considerable lag during the meeting, when there is more activity than usual in the channel, and so it is recommended that a chat client such as ChatZilla be used if you wish to participate effectively.

Please note

Per Wookieepedia:Single-issue voters, only those users with 50 valid (non-vandalism, non-fanon) edits to the Main (article) namespace may be given voice and a vote at the Mofference.

Discussion of Agenda items is to be held at the Mofference itself, with the exception of procedural comments by administrators and affected users. Comments added to Agenda items will likely be reverted by administration.

Next meeting

The next Mofference is scheduled for Sunday, February 12, 2012 at 00:00 UTC, which is 7 PM Eastern Standard Time Saturday night in North America.

Agenda

This is the agenda for topic discussions at the Mofference. Everyone is welcome to add a topic to the list, which will be discussed and/or voted on by those present. Please keep in mind that should this list grow too long, some topics at the end of the list may be removed in the interest of time. Everyone is reminded that discussions on these topics should be reserved for the meeting and not discussed here.

  1. Ratifying our new IRC cloak request system. 1358 (Talk) 20:53, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Discussing limiting the editing of userpages to registered users only. This is easily doable using Special:AbuseFilter. 1358 (Talk) 20:53, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Discussing our abandoned WookieeProject IRC channels. There are currently 10 WookieeProject channels of which, from what I've seen, only three are in somewhat active use (that being TCW, KOTOR, and VG). Do we want to keep them, delete them, or merge them into some sort of channel dedicated to all WookieeProjects? 1358 (Talk) 20:53, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  4. Treatment of unidentified articles in respect to infobox titles. Currently, we have a disparate way of filling out the name field in unidentified-titled articles. Some articles include the "unidentified," and some don't. We should choose one as our standard and go with it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:04, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Treatment of parenthetical descriptors in article titles in respect to infobox titles. Same thing as the above topic, except this is for articles that have parenthetical descriptions in the name field. Some articles include them, and some don't. Let's choose one as standard. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:04, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  6. AbuseFilter reviews: There are a couple of filters I'd like to bring to the community to review, namely this one and this one. I'll provide better, more detailed reasoning before the meeting, but essentially I believe they represent unilaterally-implemented policy that should be brought to the community for formal approval/rejection. The first one, in particular, will require an addition to the protection policy if approved. Master Jon War Room Friday, January 20, 2012, 22:09 UTC
    OK, full details on this item can be found at User:Master Jonathan/Mofference/6. Advance discussion of the proposed protection policy rewrite will occur at Forum:SH:Protection policy update and rewrite to avoid bogging down the Mofference itself in arguments over minor details. Master Jonathan Council Chambers Friday, January 27, 2012, 00:49 UTC
  7. Establishing a grace period for consensus discussions (ex: CT and TC forums) in regards to how soon a consensus measure can be re-proposed following the closure of a previous forum on the same subject. It may be good to establish separate periods of time each for consensus forums that end in success, failure, and no consensus. This essentially prevents those who might deliberately abuse the consensus forum procedure by proposing something over and over again in succession, and also provides protection for policy that achieves consensus by giving it a set period of time to exist before someone potentially tries repealing it. Note that this would not apply to a no-consensus forum like this one that was closed "early and without prejudice," to use the forum's own wording, so that a clearer procedure could be written up in its place. Toprawa and Ralltiir 23:45, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  8. Unless Riff or someone else has already submitted it, discuss what goes into our Celebration VI fan table application (assuming we want a table). The deadline is just over two weeks after the Mofference, and I want to make sure we don't miss it like we did in 2010. I probably will not have specifics to propose, but I want to bring it up both for general discussion and as a reminder of the deadline as we get closer to it. —MJ— Jedi Council Chambers Saturday, January 21, 2012, 02:55 UTC
    A few more details of what we need to discuss can be found at User:Master Jonathan/Mofference/8, including a link to the application. —MJ— Council Chambers Thursday, January 26, 2012, 18:17 UTC
  9. Proper documentation for infoboxes: When faced with an infobox, it's not immediately obvious what goes in some of the fields. Even for veteran users, deciding whether or not a field needs to be used is sometimes unclear with no discernible precedent. Some sort of template documentation to clearly explain what/when/whether something should be in a field would help this. Currently the closest thing to this is on {{Individual ship infobox}} but it wouldn't have solved the confusion I've seen, so I'll aim to have an example on my sandbox subpage by the Mofference. —NAYAYEN 02:36, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
  10. A substitute for quote galleries: Quote galleries are currently being trash compacted, but we needn't necessarily kill {{Wq}} along with them. {{Wq}}, when added to a character's page, currently takes the reader to that character's quote gallery, but I'd like to propose modifying it so that it directs to that character's archived QOTD quotes instead. For example, adding {{Wq}} to Ackbar would direct the reader here. Menkooroo 04:30, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
  11. Enabling Gadgets Extension: I'd like to propose we enable the Gadgets extension here. The Gadgets extension lets us create user CSS and JavaScript tools that users can turn on/off in their preferences in a tab that is added by the extension. This means we could add FastDelete as a gadget and let admins turn it on/off in their preferences, or add the purge button, rather than users having to work out how to add it to their JS/CSS pages. You can see gadgets in action on Wikipedia and try them out if you have an account, or here. Cheers, grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 02:31, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
  12. Proper use of periods in ref notes: Many status articles that I've completed, reviewed, and read only contain a period in the ref note(s) if the ref note is a complete sentence. I have always done it this way, and I brought up this point on this nom. However, that nom, along with others, contained a period after every ref note. As stated above on other Mofference notes, I think conformity should be used in this instance. Which way should it be done?—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 02:03, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
  13. Making Wookieepedia:Copyrights full policy. I find it a bit ridiculous that after nearly seven years this is still "proposed". It's past time to approve it. —MJ— Training Room Thursday, January 26, 2012, 22:19 UTC
  14. Amendment to WP:SIG regarding loophole in current policy JangFett (Talk) 03:00, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
  15. Adding more CheckUsers I'd like to propose giving CheckUser to Green Tentacle and Toprawa. This would give us coverage with one person in Europe, one in America and me in Australia (as many vandals hit while I'm asleep!), and GT and Tope are generally available every day on the wiki and in IRC. This would also give oversight to the CheckUser tool, in that there would now be other users who can see the checks that have been made so there's no abuse of the tool. :) Wikia is OK with granting both of these users the right providing there is community consensus of course. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 03:49, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
  16. I don't have a concrete plan to be voted on, but I think that the Mofference is a great forum for discussing this idea and potentially tossing out suggestions that could later be CT'd. I want to propose the showcasing of Good Articles on the front page. This was something that was suggested last year when we were trying to fight the shrinking FA queue, but we opted for implementing the RFAN page instead. I don't suggest that we replace FAs on the front page, but rather that we supplement them. I'm thinking a very small and unobtrusive line falling below "This week's other Featured Article" that says "This week's Good Articles: Huey, Dewey, Louie, and Scrooge." I've always felt it's a bit unfortunate that Good Articles, which are of the same quality as FAs but a little shorter, aren't shown off to the site's casual readers the way that FAs are. Questions such as "Where do we start?" could be hammered out in a CT or SH thread, I think; right now at the Mofference, I just want to gauge reactions to this idea, and see if four per week is an OK number. Menkooroo 18:58, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
  17. New addition to our Official friends nomination page. Something I noticed today when JMAS nominated something for removal. JangFett (Talk) 00:30, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
  18. Part 1: Amend Wookieepedia:User image policy item 7 to read "Users with no contributions to the main namespace for more than 12 months are considered inactive and lose their privileges in regards to user images." This is how it has generally been interpreted, but best make it explicit. Part 2: Add "Users must meet the requirements of Wookieepedia:Single-issue voters to earn and maintain user image privileges." as item 10 of Wookieepedia:User image policy. I do not believe this second part will be an excessive burden, since anyone who can't be bothered to make 50 edits can just use Oasis (spit) and Wikia's avatar system (spit). -- Darth Culator (Talk) 17:47, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
  19. To jump on the bandwagon, there's curently no standardized method for citing non-Star Wars books. I noticed this while organizing the sourcing for Burl Ives, where I just picked up one of my MLA sourcebooks and used a tweaked version of that. For those that haven't seen MLA, the jist of it is here on the far left. While this won't show up often, I think we should discuss how to handle it, like if a template should be made or not. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 00:08, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Attendance

  1. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:50, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Tentatively. I'm looking forward to it, and should be able to make it, bar unforeseen circumstances. That time of February is particularly busy for me.—Cal JediInfinite Empire (Personal Comm Channel) 20:53, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  3. !crazylaugh 1358 (Talk) 20:54, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  4. I should be there. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 20:58, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
    Menkooroo 21:06, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  5. Master Jonathan Training Room Friday, January 20, 2012, 21:36 UTC
  6. Pfft, sleep is for lightweights. #european —NAYAYEN 21:38, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  7. Hopefully. -- I need a name (Complain here) 22:12, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  8. I look forward to the chaos. Jonjedigrandmaster (Talk) 22:49, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  9. JangFett (Talk) 23:14, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
  10. I'll be there for at least some of the time.--Exiled Jedi Oldrepublic crest (Greetings) 23:24, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
    CC7567 (talk) 02:45, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
  11. Should be available for this. I'll update if anything changes. -- Riffsyphon1024 10:01, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
  12. I believe I'll be able to make it at this point. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 14:14, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
  13. Possibly. – Tm_T@Wookieepedia:~$ 21:01, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
  14. We're off to the Mofference! IFYLOFD (Floyd's crib) 02:05, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
    Tyber J. Kenobi's Droid 02:13, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
  15. Tentatively. Unless drinking intervenes. - Cavalier OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 09:14, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
  16. Actually may make it if I'm at a place where I can get on IRC with my phone. I'll be in Dallas for a big TPM IMAX trip. ^.^ MasterFredCommerce Guild(Whatever) 19:58, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
  17. NaruHina Talk Anakinsolo 00:47, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
  18. Okay, the thing I've got going on on Saturday should be late enough to not interfere with this, so I expect to be there. jSarek 12:29, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Apologies

  1. I won't get off work in time. Corellian PremierRobotechAll along the watchtower 04:23, January 22, 2012 (UTC)
  2. Sorry, I'm not at home due to a long planned party. Tyber J. Kenobi's Droid 21:43, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
  3. Menkooroo 02:47, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
  4. CC7567 (talk) 19:11, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

Is this meant to be Friday night or Saturday night in the U.S.? I think there's confusion over exactly what 00:00 UTC means. The intent of the time inserted into the infobox appears to be 7 pm EST Saturday night, but the time given under the "Next meeting header" translates to Friday night in the U.S. (00:00 UTC is always the beginning of the day, never the end). Which is it? Master Jonathan Council Chambers Friday, January 20, 2012, 21:33 UTC

  • I intended this to be on Saturday night for North American users. My apologies if I messed those times up. Feel free to fix it. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:35, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Meeting transcripts

  1. January 7, 2006 (PDF)
  2. January 16, 2006 (PDF)
  3. February 2, 2006 (PDF)
  4. February 28, 2006 (PDF)
  5. April 16, 2006 (Text)
  6. May 14, 2006 (PDF)
  7. August 19, 2006 (Text)
  8. November 10, 2006 (Text) (PDF)
  9. December 8, 2006 (Text) (PDF)
  10. February 23, 2007 (Text) (PDF)
  11. June 2, 2007 (Text)
  12. September 9, 2007 (Text) (PDF)
  13. January 5, 2008 (Text)
  14. August 23, 2008 (Text) (Minutes)
  15. January 25, 2009 (Text) (Minutes)
  16. July 26, 2009 (Text) (Minutes)
  17. April 2, 2011 (Text) (Minutes)
  18. February 12, 2012 (Text) (Minutes)
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