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I was just wondering, do we have a policy regarding articles/short stories in journals or magazines as sources? I mean do we list just the name of the article/story as in, say

Or do we include the name and issue/volume of the magazine or journal as in

Do we have a policy? If no, should we have one, or should we keep fighting edit wars over this issue? KEJ 16:32, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Personally, I prefer the latter, as it gives better context. Adamwankenobi 23:19, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
    • I normally prefer the latter, although some short stories have been reprinted in a magazine, electronically published on Hyperspace, and/or collected in a book. How should we cite the information for them? —Silly Dan (talk) 02:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Good question. KEJ 15:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
        • Most of the time, the original source, but for things like hyperspace, that hyperspace link would just be in addition, in the ex. links section. —Xwing328(Talk) 23:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
          • Okay, should we make this into a kind of policy or something? KEJ 08:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
            • I prefer the former, since there are multiple methods of distribution for many stories. .... 09:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
              • In any case, we should make a policy to prevent silly edit wars. KEJ 09:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
                • I like the SWAJ template. Hyperspace links can always go on the story's article. We do need a policy, though, for this and for other types of articles and stories. We're wildly inconsistent as it is. -- Ozzel 09:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
                  • One of the advantages of the latter, especially at the moment, is that often the articles themselves are redlinks, and so are either useless, or require some research to ascertain what larger publication they appear in. That is why some Wookieepedia articles currently only have larger publication as a source, which is not very useful. --Eyrezer 01:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
                    • What about having first appearance of a short story normal, and then later appearances indented beneath the first appearance? Alas, it's apparently not possible to indent templates at this point, so just imagine the subsequent mentions of each story in Dagon Niriz are indented to get an idea of what I've got in mind. jSarek 21:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
                      • In my opinion we should get rid of this template and add only the article or story. If someone wants to know where, how and when a certain story/article was published, he can check its page. If there isn't one, then it's okay to add the issue number. I don't see a problem here. I think all these templates look absolutely messy on the pages. I mean, what's the small logo in front of it even good for? Are we going to add Del Rey- and Bantam-logos to the other books, too? It sticks out of the Appearances- and Sources-lists and looks out of place. Furthermore we have multiple sources for some stories which is just another problem arising with this template. What to do with stories that were re-released in hyperspace or elsewhere, comics that were reprinted in multiple collections? Add every single publication like the Dagon Niriz example suggests it? That's way too much and too confusing. I just fail to see the necessity of it. I think it's fine the way we handle it right now: No template; story/article only (unless we have a redlink); further information on the relevant pages. It's handy and looks better. - Borsk Fey'lya 22:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
                        • I think the exact opposite. I think being able to instantly identify what a source is from is extremely helpful and shouldn't require clicking to find out. I don't know how many times I've come across a source and thought "what the heck is that? A comic? A short story? A game expansion?" And I think templates allow us to easily provide that information in a consistent and visually distinctive manner. We really ought to expand them, to have templates for Insider, Gamer, and so forth. jSarek 09:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Actually - well, I know this will not be well received - I wouldn't mind if each type of reference had its own logo and template. So games would have the LucasArts logo, Del Rey books the Del Rey logo, sources/stories in journals would have the journal's logo etc. Yes, I know bad idea, but it's an easy way of seing where something is published. P-p-p-p-p-please, don't kill me.KEJ 19:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
    • A logo for media type is not a bad idea. However list the specfic publisher would take many more, especially with the non-adult books. -Fnlayson 21:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
      • KEJ, I agree with you. I made the SWAJ one but didn't suggest it for others as I also thought other people may not like it. Perhaps we were wrong. --Eyrezer 22:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
        • Some people don't like it, but it seems that there are more people who do like it. I certainly like it. KEJ 22:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
          • I would be amenable to the idea. Letting our readers know whether they need to go to the novel, comic, or game section of their favorite bookstore to find, for instance, Tempest Feud, would be handy. jSarek 00:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
            • Or they could click on the link and find out. We link for a reason. Havac 04:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
              • I'm sure that's not the only reason why we use links. Besides, I'd say it's easier and more practical to have the information at hand rather than having to click to get it. KEJ 19:03, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Should we make a CT about this? KEJ 08:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

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