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With the release of The Force Awakens now weeks away, it is time for the community to decide whether or not to implement the long proposed and often mooted Canon/Legends default switchover. As all are currently aware, Wookieepedia currently defaults to the Legends version of a given article; in effect, this CT proposes to make the Canon version of our articles the default landing page, with Legends pages moved to the /Legends subpages. This has always been a hotly debated topic, and one that has often split the community; strong feelings regarding the decanonization of the Expanded Universe left many of us annoyed and frustrated, and it is probably fair to say that more than a few of us were left feeling unmotivated and uninspired by the decision.

However, we cannot deny the inevitable - there is a new Canon and a new universe being created, and for Wookieepedia to remain relevant in the coming days, months and years, then we must put aside our personal feelings and do what is best for the site as a whole. On December 18th, we should not be confusing casual readers heading to the site with now-erroneous information that does not reflect the current Star Wars ongoing storyline. However, this does not mean abandoning our exhaustive Legends coverage. Many of us, myself included, will continue to work on Legends related topics as a personal preference.

Because of the mechanics of the switchover, and assuming a positive vote in favor of switching the default, the site will go into read-only mode to allow the bots to make the necessary adjustments. The timeframe is a little variable, and will last at least several days, and possibly a week or more. During this time, no editing will be possible.

In addition to the main vote, there is a second vote attached to this CT which deals with the issue of applicable redirects defaulting to the Canon page once the CT has passed in a positive manner; for example, making sure "Madine" redirects to Crix Madine, and not Crix Madine/Legends. This is more a housekeeping issue and one that is intended to keep the site running smoothly for editors and readers alike. - Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 22:53, November 28, 2015 (UTC)

VotingEdit

Vote 1: Canon as default pageEdit

Support: Canon pages should be defaultEdit

  1. Sir Cavalier of OneFarStar(Squadron channel) 22:53, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  2. Ugh so no sleep for me or RoboCade it is then. Cade StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 22:55, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  3. For the longest time, I would have been strongly opposed to making Canon pages the default. However, over the time since the Legends announcement I have grown to accept that this switch has to happen.--Exiled Jedi (talk) 23:00, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  4. My fingers will no longer have to suffer all the painful /Canon cramps. Comm. Boots (talk) 23:03, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  5. If we continue to put this off, Wookieepedia will stagnate and eventually become irrelevant. - AV-6R7Crew Pit 23:05, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  6. Cwedin(talk) 23:08, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  7. Honestly, my biggest reason for voting for this now is just to watch Cade cry at all the work he has to do. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 23:11, November 28, 2015 (UTC)
  8. Execute Order 66. Corellian PremierJedi symbolThe Force will be with you always 00:14, November 29, 2015 (UTC)
  9. Ayrehead02 (talk) 16:19, November 29, 2015 (UTC)
  10. Cevan (talk) 17:02, November 29, 2015 (UTC)
  11. IFYLOFD (Talk) 01:22, November 30, 2015 (UTC)
  12. Obi-wan Baloney (talk) 03:43, November 30, 2015 (UTC)
  13. grunny@wookieepedia:~$ 16:10, November 30, 2015 (UTC)
  14. I've been a supporter of this for a long time. Let's do it. ProfessorTofty (talk) 19:24, December 1, 2015 (UTC)
  15. Green Tentacle (Talk) 19:32, December 1, 2015 (UTC)
  16. Yay! Finally! Nivlacanator(talk) 05:34, December 2, 2015 (UTC)
    Riffsyphon1024 01:40, December 3, 2015 (UTC) (Vote struck per policy: Item 4: Fewer than 50 mainspace edits in last six months -- Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:57, December 6, 2015 (UTC))
    Right. -- Riffsyphon1024 01:18, December 7, 2015 (UTC)
  17. I've thought about this a lot over the last few months, and this is something that needs to happen. Supreme Emperor (talk) 03:33, December 4, 2015 (UTC)
  18. <-Omicron(Leave a message at the BEEP!) 03:35, December 4, 2015 (UTC)
  19. Coruscantfan (Talk) 12:08, December 5, 2015 (UTC)
  20. I hope that this will provide an impetus for all of us, especially those who focus exclusively on canon pages, to increase our quality standards. A good number of canon pages, particularly the major character ones, need a lot of improvement if they're going to become the default-view versions of their respective articles. CC7567 (talk) 14:43, December 5, 2015 (UTC)
    Do what must be done. Do not hesitate, show no mercy. --GrandmasteroftheArchives (talk) 17:08, December 5, 2015 (UTC) (Vote struck per policy: fewer than 50 mainspace edits -- CC7567 (talk) 17:35, December 5, 2015 (UTC))
  21. *sees target* ... *attacks thread with a barrage of snowballs* About damn time. :P I still say that it should have been this way from the beginning. MasterJonathan@wookieepedia.com:~$ 02:14, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
    --FigmentJedi (talk) 02:21, December 6, 2015 (UTC) (Vote struck per policy: Item 4: Fewer than 50 mainspace edits in last six months -- Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:57, December 6, 2015 (UTC))
  22. We all knew this day would come. JorrelWiki-shrinkableFraajic 02:29, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
    It's time. — DigiFluid(Whine here) 02:58, December 6, 2015 (UTC) (Vote struck per policy: Item 4: Fewer than 50 mainspace edits in last six months -- Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 14:57, December 6, 2015 (UTC))
  23. ew. 501st dogma(talk) 03:38, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
  24. I don't have a reason to vote seeing that it's settled. But might as well be one of those who decides support anyways because yes, this has to happen. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 04:08, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
  25. Let's do it now once and for all, and stand as monument to our shame like the Weeping Angels of old! --LelalMekha (talk) 15:28, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
  26. Imperators II(Talk) 17:14, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
  27. OH, FINE. -- Darth Culator (Talk) 20:19, December 6, 2015 (UTC)
  28. You can't stop the change any more than you can stop the suns from setting. Ruthless Xero(Talk) 20:17, December 14, 2015 (UTC)
  29. Jinzler (talk) 08:35, January 4, 2016 (UTC)
    The movies were the first to bring Star Wars to the fans. Canon should therefor be first and foremost.RedstarbirdMadMarek - Talk - Contribs 08:28, January 30, 2016 (UTC) (Vote struck per policy: Item 4: Fewer than 50 mainspace edits in last six months -- Cade StupidRepublicEmblem-Traced-TORkit Calrayn 15:43, January 30, 2016 (UTC))
  30. Manoof (talk) 07:01, April 17, 2016 (UTC)
  31. Adamwankenobi (talk) 21:04, June 1, 2016 (UTC)
  32. 1358 (Talk) 17:33, September 7, 2016 (UTC)
  33. Lewisr (talk) 17:40, September 7, 2016 (UTC)
  34. Janomoogo (talk) 08:08, October 12, 2016 (UTC)
  35. Harshg (talk) 16:35, November 27, 2016 (UTC)
  36. Tommy-Macaroni Imperial Emblem (Talk) 16:48, November 27, 2016 (UTC)
  37. GrandChewbacca (talk) 20:34, December 11, 2016 (UTC)
  38. IPodwithnomusic (talk) 14:52, December 12, 2016 (UTC)
  39. Took me a while, but finally had enough time AND rekindling of interest to get my edit count back up to snuff. So, here's one more vote towards legally rubber-stamping that very important thing we did over a year ago. jSarek (talk) 07:53, January 4, 2017 (UTC)
  40. 40 support votes, finally! TanDivoInsignia-SenateMurders AnilSerifoglu (talk) 22:42, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
  41. Brules Brules signature Chat 23:03, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Object: Legends pages to remain defaultEdit

  1. Sol PacificusFirestorm 20:18, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause. JediMaster22 (talk) 00:45, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

Pardon me, but is this CT still live? It seems to be quite old. Sol PacificusFirestorm 02:34, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

  • Yes, it's still live. It will have to remain live until there are 40 support votes. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 03:52, October 12, 2016 (UTC)
    • How do I check if I have enough mainspace edits to vote? Sol PacificusFirestorm 04:00, October 12, 2016 (UTC)
      • Easiest way would be to look at your contribution history and scan through it for edits that aren't on user or talk pages and do a rough count. Just from a quick look myself, I'd say you're either there or close. ProfessorTofty (talk) 16:50, October 13, 2016 (UTC)
        • Even more easier way is Special:Editcount which shows that you have 276 mainspace edits on Wookieepedia. 01miki10 Open comlink 18:33, October 13, 2016 (UTC)
          • Just so everyone is clear, voting eligibility is more specifically contingent upon having at least 50 mainspace edits within the previous six months from present, which you do currently meet, Sol Pacificus. Also, the current CT requires 45 participating votes to be ratified (see archived discussion below). Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:00, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

Is it possible for us to implement a setting in our preferences where users can choose for themselves whether articles will be by default Canon or by default Legends? Sol PacificusFirestorm 04:05, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

  • No, that's impossible to do. Preferences are not managed by individual wikis, but rather by Fandom. This tab system, on the other hand, is entirely wiki-based, so Fandom wouldn't create a preference for it. - Brandon Rhea(talk) 05:32, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

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