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I'm sure I can't be the only who sees this--and is annoyed as all hell about it. Variously throughout the site, I've seen the TOR Sith Empire referred to as "Sith Empire", "Sith Empire (post-Great Hyperspace War)" (which I've seen both as the article name and in body text), "True Sith", "Reconstituted Sith Empire", "Revitalized Sith Empire", "Resurgent Sith Empire", and I'm sure I've forgotten at least two others.
This probably should have been dealt with long before TOR hit shelves, but I guess for one reason or another it just went by the wayside. So can we just pick ONE so we have side-wide consistency in nomenclature? Pretty please? With a cherry on top? I'll be thrilled to fix any and all that I come across, once we choose.
Personally, I think there's only a couple of these that are worth consideration but if anyone disagrees please feel free to add voting options.
Anything else would simply impede our ability to write quality articles. So long as the pothole points to the appropriate article, we should be free to phrase a description as best suits the needs of the content. DD97Which bear is best? 18:28, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
It is just an adjective. The official name is "Sith Empire." Any other way that the author wants to differentiate it from other empires is entirely at their discretion. Darth Trayus(Trayus Academy) 05:38, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
Always err on Author Choice. We don't need new rules or precedents every time one of us doesn't like the way others do something. However, "True Sith" is still not a proper noun and still not an actual name. NaruHinaTalk 18:13, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
It's either Malcolm Peter Brian Telescope Adrian Umbrella Stand Jasper Wednesday :pop pop: Stoatgobbler John Raw Vegetable :whinny: Arthur Norman Michael :squeak: Featherstone Smith :whistle: Northgot Edwards Harris :bang:, :whoop: Mason :chuff-chuff-chuff-chuff: Frampton Jones Fruitbat :laugh: :squeak: Gilbert ~We'll keep a welcome in the~ :bang bang bang: Williams If I Could Walk That Way Jenkin :squeak: Tiger-drawers Pratt Thompson ~Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head~ Darcy Carter :honk: Pussycat ~Don't Sleep In The Subway~ Barton Mainwaring :hoot:, :whoop: Smith; or nothing. DD97Which bear is best? 15:50, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
I personally don't really see too much advantage with this CT. I think it should be left to the editor's discretion on what to call it. The name "Sith Empire" is always the same. Whether we call it the "resurgent Sith Empire" or the "reconstructed Sith Empire" or whatever doesn't matter as much, I don't think. The change you're suggestion is only an adjective. It's not a part of the actual name. It would be like saying that we can only call Luke Skywalker "awesome Luke Skywalker" in our articles from now on. I think some common sense and discretion should be used by the editor when deciding what to call it, and that it should be left at that.—Cal Jedi(Personal Comm Channel) 15:43, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
It's not just an adjective though. For instance, in the infoboxes for Scourge and the Sith Emperor, their affiliation lists "Sith Empire" and "Resurgent Sith Empire" respectively. These aren't isolated instances--this sort of inconsistency is all over Wookieepedia's TOR-related articles. It's messy, it's unprofessional, and it's pretty much demanding resolution IMO. -- DigiFluid 17:31, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
I don't think that this CT is necessary and if it passes, it would set a dangerous precedent. The name of the Sith Empire is determined by canon, not by us on Wookieepedia. TOR makes quite clear that the formal name of the Empire was the "Sith Empire," and the "(post-Great Hyperspace War)" part of the name is merely necessary to distinguish it from the other Sith Empire. Per Cal, this is not a barrier to an editor referring to the Empire by any of the above names. --Jinzler 15:54, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
This isn't about determining canon--that isn't our job, which you're quite correct in saying. But I think you're missing my point here: there needs to be some level of consistency in how we choose to refer to it (see point above in response to Cal). If simply "Sith Empire" with link to post-GHW, so be it. If the name changes in an official source down the line, then we're only having to correct one CONSISTENT nomenclature, rather than having to root out the incalculable variations that occur to editors at any given time. -- DigiFluid 17:31, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to agree with the above. JangFett(Talk) 16:17, January 12, 2012 (UTC)