Forum:CT:Colon usage in Dark Horse comic titles

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The result of the debate was adopt colon usage in comic titles per Dark Horse's formatting. Grunny (talk) 09:43, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

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The following proposal pertains only to colon usage for the "Star Wars" portion of titles for comic series published by Dark Horse Comics. This Consensus track has no implications outside of that very narrow area, and does not serve to set a precedent for future Consensus tracks concerning article titles. Now, let's get down to business.

We currently format these titles as as such:

Star Wars Empire 8: Darklighter, Part 1

Dark Horse's website formats them like this:

Star Wars: Empire #8: Darklighter (part 1 of 4)

There's a couple of differences, as you can see. My proposal is that we change our colon usage to match Dark Horse's, but nothing else. Under this system, the relevant articles would be formated like this:

Star Wars: Empire 8: Darklighter, Part 1

Note that instances where the publisher does not use a colon (such as Star Wars Tales) would remain unaffected.

The current standard where we do not use a colon after Star Wars is due to the fact that when these articles were made, the namespace of this wiki was "Star Wars". This created all sorts of problems, and in this case caused us to drop the colon. I am sure there's an argument to be made for further refining our naming policies, but I will have none of it in this Consensus track.

Simply put: shall we put this artifact of a five-year-old bug behind us and comply with the publisher's own usage? --Imperialles 21:47, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

For

1. Imperialles 21:47, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
2. Makes sense to me. Standardization = good. Toprawa and Ralltiir 21:55, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
3. Grunny (talk) 22:20, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
4. Per Toprawa. Graestan^(Talk) 22:41, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
5. Per Tope. Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 22:51, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
6. Yep. - JMAS ^{Hey, it's me!} 22:51, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
7. Per Tope. Jonjedigrandmaster ^{(We seed the stars)} 23:02, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
8. Per Tope. —Master Jonathan^{(Jedi Council Chambers)} 00:21, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
9. —Tommy ⁹²⁸¹ 00:22, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
10. Our current format is entirely arbitrary. Havac 00:29, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
11. Yes please. Thefourdotelipsis 00:55, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
12. Never knew about the Star Wars namespace. --Eyrezer 01:01, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
13. Considering I format titles like that elsewhere to begin with... Trak Nar ^{Ramble on} 06:56, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
14. Cavalier One^{(Squadron channel)} 07:19, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
15. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 11:10, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
16. Green Tentacle ^(Talk) 17:57, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
17. -- 1358 ^(Talk) 18:08, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
18. Oh, right, I should vote, too. jSarek 21:47, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
19. From the Department of Redundancy Department for the purpose of the same. — Fiolli ^{{Alpheridies University ComNet}} 01:30, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
20. Might as well. Atarumaster88 ^{(Talk page)} 21:05, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
21. Only Wikia could name a namespace "Star Wars". Pranay Sobusk ~ Talk 22:08, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
22. SoresuMakashi^{(Everything I tell you is a lie)} 09:00, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
23. Makes sense. Dark Empire's unique naming conventions have always bothered me. QuiGonJinn ^(Talk) 10:16, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

• At the risk of going off on an unwanted extraneous discussion, I feel this needs to be pointed out. The logic behind this CT measure is "do it the way Dark Horse, the publisher, does it," which I agree with. But if you're going to look at standardizing one area of the comic name (colons), you must also consider the other parts of the name. Specifically, how we include "Star Wars" in some comic names (see Star Wars: Empire or Star Wars: Chewbacca) but not in others (see Dark Empire.) By the logic of this CT, we should include "Star Wars" in the Dark Empire comic series name because that's how Dark Horse does it. What is the difference between "Star Wars: Empire" and "Dark Empire" that we include "Star Wars" in one but not the other? Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:10, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
  • One thing to keep in mind is that most of these articles were created at the very beginning of the wiki, with very little active administration (the admins were happy to be getting content and didn't mind too much how it was formatted) and close to zero policies in place. Unless Dark Horse also excludes Star Wars from the title(s), I am fairly certain the cause of the discrepancy is a simple error. --Imperialles 22:16, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
    • Very true. My understanding, correct or not, is that there exists some discrepancy among the userbase over when and when not to use "Star Wars" in the name. And I think this CT's logic should be applied to that debate as well, if it even exists. But that should be reserved for another forum. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:22, April 12, 2010 (UTC)
• A little historical context for those wondering what the namespace issue was to begin with: Wookieepedia talk:Community Portal/Namespace dispute. jSarek 11:35, April 13, 2010 (UTC)
• I wish Dark Horse also didn't make some crappy titles . . . oh wait, not that kind of colon usage. :P Atarumaster88 ^{(Talk page)} 21:04, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • XD Chack Jadson ^(Talk) 20:26, April 17, 2010 (UTC)