This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made in the Senate Hall or new Consensus Track pages rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. The result of the debate was superseded by later Mofference decision to not use Hyperspace-exclusive content: see Wookieepedia:Hyperspace content. —Silly Dan(talk) 21:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
We currently have three images from Hyperspace tagged as copyright violations. On the one hand, if we can't defend these images as fair use, we should delete them immediately or replace them with fair use images. On the other hand, we have several other images from Hyperspace on this site which aren't flagged. The illustration on Manka Hunter comes from the webstrip version of "A Hunter's Fate: Greedo's Tale", but we've tagged it as fair use exactly as we would have done with a scanned panel from a printed comic. Could someone help clarify which Hyperspace images we're allowed to post here? —Silly Dan(talk) 20:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
I think the de facto consensus is that webstrip scans are ok, since a webcomic is by definition a series of sequential images that together form a whole story. Having a single panel, especially if it's not too big, is ok. However, something from Galactic Gallery or some such is not ok, as those are just collections of individual, independent images. Thus, taking an image from them is copying a unit of content in its entirety. -LtNOWIS 18:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. A good rule of thumb is to not allow the hyperspace branded images from the galleries, and treat the hyperspace comics just like any other published comic (ie, reproduce individual frames to illustrate an article, but not the whole comic). QuentinGeorge 23:45, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
There is a policy somewhere on the official site (which I have looked for recently but have not been able to locate) that talks about what you can and can't (mostly can't) do with Hyperspace content. I believe it says that images can only be posted elsewhere if they are "heavily modified." I think cropping from the webstrips falls into a bit of a gray area (no pun intended...well, maybe so). That's made me a little nervous before. But I say as long as we are cropping to simply one character out of a whole strip, I would hope we are okay.
As for regular Hyperspace images, though, that is an absolute no-no. I'm really surprised that some users have copied images from there and simply airbrushed out the logo and have more or less "gotten away with it."
Now about the three images in question: the image of Voss Parck appears in one of the SWAJs; easily replaceable. I don't know for sure, but there might be an image of Koyi Mateil in Star Wars Chronicles: The Prequels. And as for Saesee Tiin's starfighter, I bet one could get a good screencap from the DVD; I'll check into that myself. -- Ozzel 00:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Darth Culator convinced me that Hyperspace images which are cropped to remove the logo, resized so we have a lesser-quality copy, and still completely sourced, may be OK. So, that's what we've done with the pictures in question. —Silly Dan(talk) 02:13, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Darth Culator, although I'm not sure if leaving out the logo is alright. But then again, Hyperspace isn't the artist of the images — but we should check into the policy on the official site to check. But I do agree is that such images, if allowed, should be low-resolution (as should be all fair use images in general). —Mirlen 23:33, 11 September 2006 (UTC)