This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made in the Senate Hall or new Consensus Track pages rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. The result of the debate was Support proposals. JangFett(Talk) 21:25, April 22, 2014 (UTC)
I propose that we codify our longstanding precedent for how to name novels and similar literary works. This is specifically in regard to a) not including "Star Wars" in the title of these articles, and b) when to include a novel series name in the title of an article. Any approved change will be added to Wookieepedia:Naming policy. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:21, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
For the most part, this is only reinforcing what we already do. This also reflects how novels and similar works are presented in official sources, such as The Essential Reader's Companion and the chronology timeline at the beginning of novels. Please note the specific points behind this proposal:
This does not apply to comic books at this time, which deserve their own discussion.
"Star Wars: The Clone Wars" and "Star Wars: The Old Republic" are not being treated as aforementioned "Star Wars"–specific titles because the terms "The Clone Wars" and "The Old Republic" are frequently used by official outlets and can be considered independent from "Star Wars." This is also reflects how Essential Reader's Companion and the novels timeline present these works.
I am also proposing that we exclude "Star Wars Rebels" from the title of in-universe "Appearance" books from that series. From all official indications, "Star Wars Rebels" is an indivisible title. Meaning, for example, "Star Wars Rebels: Ezra's Gamble" is either that or just "Ezra's Gamble." It shouldn't be abbreviated to "Rebels: Ezra's Gamble." Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 19:21, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
Wookieepedia:Naming policy#Literary works includes a clause that is patently contradictory to how we've named many novel articles, and it reveals an inconsistency in our naming conventions for novel series. The clause reads: "If the book is the part of the series, use only the novel's actual title, without the title of the series (for example: Path of Destruction, No Prisoners, Star by Star, Fury). Note that two of the four linked examples in that clause are currently redirects on the policy page, demonstrating how much we don't abide by this specific rule. By far, the majority of our serial novel articles include the series name in their titles. I present the following list:
Although the majority of our serial novel articles do include the series name in the title, none of our novel articles from the New Jedi Order, Legacy of the Force, or Fate of the Jedi series do, which is where our inconsistency lies. But they should:
All the Legacy of the Force books present their titles as, for example, Star Wars: Legacy of the Force: Revelation on the book's credits page (scroll down), and this is also seen on the novel covers.
Although we're used to these novels not including the series name in their titles, there is no real reason why all of our other serial novel articles include the series name but these don't. Either they should all have the series name or none of them should for consistency. And as demonstrated, it's more correct to include the series name than not, so our policy, which restricts the inclusion of the series in the title, should be changed.