This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made in the Senate Hall or new Consensus Track pages rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. The result of the debate was Support proposal. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 17:56, October 8, 2015 (UTC)
I am proposing an amendment to the Notability policy regarding planets named through The Essential Atlas. We have confirmation from Atlas author Jason Fry (see here and here) that the Atlas focuses on listing star systems rather than planets, and that systems are named informally with respect to a given system's most recognizable celestial object. For example, the Drynn system is listed as the Kammia system, based on the planet Kammia.
However, this has led to a problem in our article creations, as some celestial objects are never identified in any sources but have nonetheless been given articles. For example, the Bulano article; nothing ever says that "Bulano" is a planet. The Essential Atlas lists the Bulano system based on the existence of the Bulano serpent. We can infer from Jason Fry's comments that there's some kind of celestial object in the Bulano system named "Bulano," but we simply don't know what that object is; it could be a planet, a moon, a space station, an asteroid, etc. It's silly to create articles for these unknown entities when there's nothing more that we can say for them other than "Some kind of celestial object named Bulano existed in the Bulano system." This is similar to how we're handling the Dilonexa system. We know that system has 40 planets, 39 of which are never directly referenced, so we deleted all of them.
Currently, we have a compiled list of 43 "planets" identical to Bulano. There's no guarantee that this list is comprehensive, since it's a bit difficult to go through the entire wiki finding all of these, but it gives you an idea of how widespread this issue is. Therefore, I propose the following be added to a new "Planet" subsection of the Notability policy:
Planet articles may only be created based on maps from The Essential Atlas if the Atlas or another source explicitly identifies the article subject as a planet. According to author Jason Fry, The Essential Atlas lists star systems rather than planets, so galactic locations highlighted on Atlas maps are not to be interpreted as planet names without aforementioned source confirmation.
If this proposal passes, the 43 planets from the above list will be redirected to their accompanying star systems, as will any similar articles that we may yet come across. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 22:53, September 15, 2015 (UTC)
Maybe the 43 "planets" on the abovementioned list need to rechecked - The Essential Atlas actually identifies Thull's Vault as a planet (in the Senex-Juvex section of the book). Imperators II(Talk) 08:33, September 16, 2015 (UTC)
That's fine. I've removed it from the list. We can certainly disregard any false positives. Toprawa and Ralltiir (talk) 18:42, September 16, 2015 (UTC)