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After finally getting my hands on this book and reading it wouldn't it be invalid because of the mentioning of Vaapaad? Just wondering.—Unsigned comment by18.104.22.168 (talk • contribs).
One continuity glitch doesn't make it non-canon. (Neither do all the other continuity glitches which someone who's read the book and Jedi vs. Sith will now pop up and remind us of. 8) ) —Silly Dan(talk) 17:20, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Honestly, though, did it ever state anywhere that Windu specifically named his style, as an original term, Vaapad, or if it was perhaps originally an alternate term for Juyo? π = 3(Talk to me, babe.) 17:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
It was in the novel Shatterpoint that Mace describes how he developed Vaapad. Hope that helps. Greyman(Paratus) 17:51, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
no because in an interveiw the author was tired and said he meant a different fighting style.
In Star Wars Insider #92 they retcon that continuity error by saying that on Sarapin, "juyo" and "vaapad" are as interchangeale as "puma" and "cougar" are here on Earth. That doesn't mean that the Sith and the Jedi called the Juyo form "Vaapad" before Mace Windu completed the incomplete Juyo with Vaapad, but that is how they explain the error, however Drew`Karpyshyn already said that he wishes to God he could change that error.--Jedi Kasra 19:25, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand why they insist on digging holes for themselves like that. They could just wait and fix it in later editions, problem solved. DarthMRN 19:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Who knows, if we ask Drew Karpyshyn and Lucasbooks for a revised edition of the book maybe we will get one. I don't like that retcon just as much as you don't. If I'm not mistaken Issue 92 says "While author Drew Karpyshyn has identified this a a continuity error, it can be easily be explained into a richer story point." Doesn't that sound more like a suggestion rather that a matter of fact?--Jedi Kasra 20:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
How about we handle it the same way we handle the portions of the original Trilogy novelizations which speak of Obi-Wan and Owen being brothers, a blue-skinned Yoda, and Luke and Leia's mother surviving a few years after their births: those specific phrases are not canon, the entire story is being told as an antiquated legend (which tend to contradict themselves quite often), and we not worry about it and move on? 22.214.171.124 01:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
In those cases, the movies overrule the movie novelizations. -- Riffsyphon1024 01:58, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Okay, let's use a different example then: the Clone Wars. We have two very different accounts of the events that lead up to Revenge of the Sith which cannot possibly be reconciled, and so far no official attempt has been made, either. These differing accounts are the continuity of the novels, comics, and video games, and the other account is the continuity of the Clone Wars: Volume 2 cartoon show. How I reconcile such things is with this mindset: Star Wars is a legend. A legend akin to Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, or even the stories of the Old Testament. Such ancient legends are often full of contradictory accounts, but when you see them for what they are - legends, or recollections of fables or ancient occurrences - you will begin to accept all of it as canon, and not be so anal about little (or sometimes even major) inconsistencies. This way of thinking is also how I handle the films and their novelizations, even though the films themselves, technically overrule the other accounts; but seeing them as legends will make you more accepting of all accounts rather than saying, "Hey! That can't be! It's non-canonical!" Sometimes I even prefer the way events play out in other media to the way they do in the films, the Revenge of the Sith novelization probably being the greatest example. Another one for me would be the encounter between Luke and Palpatine in the Return of the Jedi novelization. And, as I said, this is also how I handle the Clone Wars, as well as little inconsistencies such as the topic of this discussion. 126.96.36.199 18:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
I applaud you approach to the problem, but with this site being a common ground for many different fans, all with their own interpretations and preferences, the tiny canonical details need to be adressed, and a coherent and 'true' recollection of events is needed to settle disputes over what goes in an article, and what doesn't. That is this Wikis purpose, after all. DarthMRN 22:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)