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I was just reading an article on the CIS......what is a defacto leader?--*Xerxes* 16:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Definition of de facto from dictionary.com: "actually existing, esp. when without lawful authority." Does that answer your question? Sarendipity Talk File:Atrissig.jpg 17:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
    • A de facto leader is someone who has seized authority regardless of whether it was by lawful means. --Hencho414 17:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
  • This probably should be in the Knowledge bank, I think. A de facto leader is one that took or assumed the position without being 'selected'. -Fnlayson 17:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
    • I've always thought the phrase implies a kind of outsider's view. Say you're a diplomat or envoy sent to negotiate with a power. You could talk to the rightful leader, but he's in jail (or dead) and has no power. Even if your government doesn't recognize the new leader, he's currently in charge. So you end up talking to the de-facto leader. Enochf 17:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
      • De facto as opposed to de jure. The magnificent wonders of online dictionaries. KEJ 17:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
        • You could always look it up on [www.wikipedia.org].--Lord Thanatos 10:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I believe that de facto leader actually means that he is the leader, but not by law, and no one questions it, The term is well known for its connection to segregation laws, where you had de facto segregation (the segregation just happened and it was accepted) and de jure (it was the law that things were segregated).- Puggins Unsigned comment by 169.139.222.5 (talk • contribs).

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