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Like the title implies, this is a small list of stuff I'm curious about.
Firstly, where do Jedi get their clothes (In-universe, of course)? I mean, they are obviously customized—as shown in Shaak Ti's Togrutan-inspired attire, Ki-Adi-Mundi's Cerean vest, and Anakin Skywalker's dark variant. Were they all given a course in Sewing 101? Or is there some kind of machine or something that they tell what they want and it spits them out? On the same page, where do clothes in general come from (not originally, I mean the fully-put-together stuff)? I know in some rough areas they might be hand-done, but in big cities on Coruscant, where would they get them? In Wedge's Gamble, Chapeter 21, a "garment-fabricator holo-unit" is mentioned, where Mirax and Iella are kind of customizing some dresses. Is there anymore info than this? Is it mentioned in any comics? Are there any pictures?
On a different note, what exactly are food processors? The only thing I came up with when searching is a system on a Personal Luxury Yacht 3000 called a Gormet Master 5000, which is redlinked. From what I know, it spits out imitation food, is this correct? Is that all? And about how often is food hand-cooked, not 'processed'? And what do they cook it with?
Similarly, what are some of the utensils of the Star Wars universe? Are there any pictures of them? How are they held, properly? What is known of some general IU etiquette when dining?
And finally, what are different ways weddings are conducted in the GFFA?
About the utensils. Didn't Anakin and Padme use them on Naboo at the dinner table? -- Riffsyphon1024 08:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I didn't think of that. There's a picture of the dinner setting in 365 Days, but I only see on half. There appears to be a sleek fork-thing, and in a more encompassing picture I think I see a flat-ish spoon and a knife. The glasses and plates look retro. Looks like I might have to dig out EpII and see if I can find a pic or something. Thanks. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 16:56, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I know this is probably a bump, but oh, well. I was unable to get a picture of the place setting because I cannot take screenshots and I cannot scan my 365 days. So I don't know if there should be an article on them, or something. And does anyone heave a clue about my other questions? -Solus (Bird of Prey) 01:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I was finally able to scan my 365 Days, and here is what I got. The second one stinks, I had to enlarge it and the color dots showed up very well, so I had to blur it so... yeah. Should there be an article on the objects? Who's a hyperinclusionist?
PS Is there any info about my other questions? Or is there none? -Solus (Bird of Prey) 15:26, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I would think regular people would buy their clothes in stores, but the only instance of clothes-buying I can recall is when Mara got a wedding dress in Union. But there has to be an example somewhere in the canon. And of course, a lot of government personnel get their clothing issued to them. -LtNOWIS 06:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I seem to recall from somewhere that Jedi were supposed to wear garments which would be able to blend in well, regardless of society and current fashion, so that they could better serve as neutral negotiators and peacekeepers. If that is correct, then it stands to reason that they had the Jedi apparel specially tailored by professionals. DarthMRN 11:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
i'm sure there are thousands of different wedding types in star wars, like there is in the real world. AdmirableAckbar 14:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
To LtNOWIS: Oh? What happened in Union? I've never read it. Was the procedure similar to the typical buying-shopping thing? To DarthMRN: An argument as good as any I've got. But that raises the question: what is a professional tailor in the GFFA? A droid? An organic? Is it ever mentioned? To Tutos: Bloodlines dabbles in which point? And where? I own the book, I could look it up if you gave me the general area. To AdmirableAckbar: I'm sure there are, but what are some specific instances? In particular, is there any mention of what a Corellian wedding is like? Thank you all for your input. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 17:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
would food processers not be the same as they are here on earth. that is, they mush up food AdmirableAckbar 17:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
To Ataru: An organic tailor? Thank you for that info. To Admirable: No, they churn out organic food, from what I know of them. Which isn't much. To whom it may concern: After some looking, I was able to kinda work on one of my questions. It concerns what food is cooked with. Since I could not scan it, I took and retouched some photos of Dex's kitchen and the food line on the Jedirian Valley. I also found a list of things that could be used to cook.
Incidentally, while looking these up, I found that kitchen and galley are sometimes linked, but, as you can see, are red, though refresher, also a room like the former two, is bluelinked. Does this mean that an article should be made? And what would it include? -Solus (Bird of Prey) 21:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
No, refresher is the in-universe name for a bathroom. Kitchen and galley are real-world terms which have identical meaning in SW. Articles should only be made for OOU things which are different IU. DarthMRN 21:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
While I mostly concur with your statement, there is an article on oxygen, which, from all apparent sources, is breathed. Like regular oxygen. It just lists the things in a prose style that are different between real-world oxygen and SW-oxygen, or state a unique use of it. It is for this reason I think there might should be an article on kitchen, unless your kitchen at home has a thermapad and gamma flux boilers. Just sayin'. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 18:12, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I believe the Oxygen article qualifies in that it mentions that it is toxic to certain species, which is of IU significance, but still isn't something you would learn from reading the oxygen article on Wikipedia. You make a good point for the kitchen, but that would require that information of common IU household articles should be included in it, which is debatable. If such a thing was put to a vote, I'm not sure what mine would be. DarthMRN 23:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
True. If such a vote were to come up, I'd just do what I normally do: wait for both sides to present their arguments. I vote late, because I want to see all of the evidence. Cheating, I know. I can ask an admin's or someone's advice on the matter. I'll be sure to pick a hyperinclusionist. ;)-Solus (Bird of Prey) 01:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I support the inclusion of all elements because if they are mentioned in any source they are canon. Granted listing a reason for them to stay around that makes them unique is good, but sometimes we can't for others. But if its okay to keep oxygen, then all the rest should be too regardless of article development. In the case of kitchen, it exists and may be generic, but at least if we can apply something that is unique to it, then that warrants its keep. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Oh, goodie. If that warrants creation, then comes the hard part. Mostly, finding the sources they are mentioned and some unique info about them. Besides the gamma fluxes. And stating the obvious. Hm. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 16:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Just to keep things straight, I'm going to re-list the questions in numerical form and post the answers or information gathered about them, if any. That way I don't forget and lose track.
Firstly, where do Jedi get their clothes (In-universe, of course)? No answer given
I mean, they are obviously customized—as shown in Shaak Ti's Togrutan-inspired attire, Ki-Adi-Mundi's Cerean vest, and Anakin Skywalker's dark variant. Were they all given a course in Sewing 101?Or is there some kind of machine or something that they tell what they want and it spits them out? No answer given, however, reasonable hypothesis conclude that they were probably made by professional tailors, probably organic ones. Arguments againts this have not been put forth
On the same page, where do clothes in general come from (not originally, I mean the fully-put-together stuff)? I know in some rough areas they might be hand-done, but in big cities on Coruscant, where would they get them? Besides the garment-fabricator holo-unit mentioned above, only other known example is when Mara gets a wedding dress in Union, as put forth by LtNOWIS. However, the details surrounding this have not yet been revealed
Is there anymore info than this? Is it mentioned in any comics? Are there any pictures? Besides the above, no answer has been provided
On a different note, what exactly are food processors? Besides that they seem to produce synthetic food, supposedly, no answer has been given
And about how often is food hand-cooked, not 'processed'? No answer given
How are they held, properly? As seen in EpII screenshots of dinner on Kamino and Naboo, utensils are held in a similar manner as on earth
What is known of some general IU etiquette when dining? No answer given
Depends on the species really. Some eat with Human manners. Imagine what Gamorreans do. -- Riffsyphon1024 04:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
I didn't think of that. Thanks for pointing that out. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 16:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
You might also find some information on this in The Lost Ones. I recall it details a formal dinner between Leia Organa and the Karnak Alphans. I think it describes Zekk's confusion over etiquette and so could prove useful. --Eyrezer 04:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Ah, yes, I remember that now, thank you. I'll go pull out my Jedi Shadow and give an update. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 17:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't really say much, besides what Karnak Alphans consider manners, which is serve the youngest first, preferably with a young waitron. Not to mention, on a general note, that you don't eat the decorations.-Solus (Bird of Prey) 18:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
And finally, what are different ways weddings are conducted in the GFFA (particularly a Corellian wedding)? No answer given
Re weddings, they do include wedding rings, although they are called promise rings IU. --Eyrezer 04:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't catch your reply earlier. Mara Jade was pretty famous in Union, since she was gonna marry Luke Skywalker. So, IIRC, a lot of famous avant-garde fashion people had their own ideas about what would make a good wedding dress, and it didn't really reflect on how normal people lived. But yeah, I can probably answer a few of these. 6) I'm pretty sure there's a lot of canon for home-cooked meals. In The Paradise Snare, Dewlanna was employed as a cook. Ganar Tos was apparantly a cook. When Han and Bria were on Togoria, the Togorians cooked them food. The Tharen family had a Selonian cook: "'I'll tell the cook,' Lady Tharen said. Han was astonished to realize that the "cook" was a living being, a female Selonian, instead of a droid. This further evidence of wealth impressed him more than anything he'd yet encountered." (Since he basically had a cook as an adoptive mother, I'm pretty sure he's impressed that they have a live-in organic servant, rather than the fact that they can have meals prepared by an organic.) Anyways, moving on to other books. Rebel Dawn: Salla Zend was trying to learn how to cook when she was thinking she would marry Han. Actually, she asked Han to teach her; he was a decent cook because of his time with Dewlanna. Wookiees had a lot of prepared meals, most of which were raw. Gab'borah Hise was also a cook. Heck, just check out Category:Chefs. 10) "When dining on bruallki, don't use a three-pronged fork. Always remember to crack the shell of a broiled suuri to to release the trapped steam pockets. And never serve plicto steak with chilled Algarian wine." --The Essential Guide to Droids, discussing the SE4 Servant Droid, which was basically designed for party planning and the culinary arts. Those were examples of things your guests wouldn't care about but would be very important to the droid. 11)Here's Han, talking about Salla wanting to marry him: "Today she's out shoppin' for an outfit. She says 'cause I'm Corellian, she wants a traditional Corellian wedding. That means a green dress." So because of that, the fact that Corellian wedding dresses are green is burned into my memory.-LtNOWIS 07:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Furthermore, I'd like to say that this thread has helped me with some of my questions I've had, so here's an interesting little nugget. In one of the Rogue Squadron comics, there is quite a large picture of an Imperial military wedding between Soontir Fel and Syal Antilles. Fel is in his military uniform and Syal is in a white dress- which is unusual for Corellians, I admit, per LtNOWIS's comment. Atarumaster88(Talk page) 13:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
To LtNOWIS: You have made me very happy. Thank you muchly for the info, and no problem about the delay. Thank you very much. To Ataru: I believe what you are talking about is in The Making of Baron Fel. I'll go take a look at it, thank you. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 17:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Don't know what the little pink balls are, or why Syal has a magic wand. O.o At any rate, this may or may not be Corellian, depending on which was Syal wanted to go. But thank you, Ataru. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 18:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I would've thought it would have been a Corellian wedding, given that both Syal and Soontir are Corellian. However, they may have gone for a "military" wedding, judging by all the "boys in white". I don't know what the wand or the big cloth pinwheel flower that Syal has are about. Obviously, they have different fashion senses in the GFFA. I think the little pink balls are the SW equivalent of tossing flower petals, rice, or whatever at the newly wed bride and groom as is done in some places. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding) Of course, that's speculation. Atarumaster88(Talk page) 18:27, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Fel's Corellian? D'oh. It could have been a military-style wedding, that does make sense. And the pink ball theory fits in well. Thank you very much. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 18:30, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Man, it's so different looking at those now. Though why the level of great variation between the four Luke and Mara pics? -- Riffsyphon1024 03:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Well, the second picture is cover art instead of interior art. -LtNOWIS 03:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, LtNOWIS, that was a great help. I didn't know that category existed. After some research, Riff, it turns out that Mara and Luke had two weddings, a private on and a public one. That explains some of the variation, but I bet you knew that. Thank you very much. -Solus (Bird of Prey) 13:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)