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I never used to wonder this but after reading an article (which I think was incorrect and I will probably end up fixing), ion cannons couldn't actually harm an organic being, right? Cyfiero 07:42, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
"The actual physical damage would sometimes result in fused joints on machines, due to the heat produced."
"However, there are certain types of ion cannons which are meant to do more physical damage with electrical disruption as a plus." So I'll presume they could at least produce some damage, and if I you take game mechanics as canon, in Jedi Knight and Jedi Academy there was the Destructive Electromagnetic Pulse 2 Gun, which could at least stun the targets, if not damage them too, I'll check about the latter tho --- Mislaav 08:49, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I figured that. I asked because it says that the orbital strike used by the orbital strike sniper rifle is an ion cannon beam, and I don't really think it is because it caused instant death on organics, but it might've been since it was particularly powerful. In any case, since there are no sources to say that the beam used was actually an ion beam, I'll change it anyways. Cyfiero 09:14, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Given the electric currents running through the bodies of both organics and droids, both would be decidedly affected by it. And as the Dark Apprentice reference mentions, the ion cannons also produce heat with their shots, physically affecting a target that way, as well.
"The New Republic engineers powered up the ion cannon and focused a single blast toward the lower section of the closest Imperial walker. The bolt struck and fused the knee joint of the AT-AT's front foreleg, melting the servomotor mechanisms." ―Dark Apprentice p.115 220.127.116.11 09:45, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm just playing the game right now and used the orbital strike sniper rifle. The orbital strike was green, almost immediate, and apparently had a minor surge of electricity running through it. So now I know why the article says the beam was an ion cannon. Guess I'm not changing it after all.
By the way, I don't know why you guys keep telling me how the bolts can fuse metal together. I'm talking about organics, not machines. Cyfiero 10:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
The heat can melt metal. And you don't understand how that would have an effect on soft, organic tissue? 18.104.22.168 10:19, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Exactly, if it can fuse and melt metal together, it would at least have a similar effect to a lightsaber Mislaav 10:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Well I'm no professional, but I did not know that a lightsaber could melt and fuse metal at the same time. I kept thinking that an ion cannon was electrical not made of plasma because I never really read the article, just skimmed through it for the information I needed. Apparently I accidentally skipped the part 69.162 said that the ion cannons also produced heat. And since you kept using the quote that I kept thinking focused more on the "fusing" than melting and heat. Can't believe I missed that. Cyfiero 10:53, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
The lightsabre as well as the various plasma/energy weaponry works on similar principles, and might be somewhat comparable to the effect of welding in the real world. Basically, heating up and melting metal, allowing two different parts to coalesce together. In the case of starships getting hit, this might be somewhat alleviated for the crews inside by some form of insulation that's part of the internal building materials, thus allowing some form of survival, as we see in the Malevolence episodes, for instance. 22.214.171.124 11:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Well I get how the heating and melting of metal and the rapid cooling can fuse stuff together, but I don't really understand your second sentence, because not you're talking about since I thought that we're on the subject of ion cannons, not how starships could resist plasma/energy weaponry. And I thought that subject was solved by observing that the orbital strike used by starships in-game does contain a minor essence of electricity and in a sense, ionnized particles. I always knew that ion cannons could harm organics to some degree, I was just asking because I wasn't sure whether the orbital strike used was an ion cannon. And many canonical sources establish that while ion cannons contained plasma/energy, they were nevertheless, highly effective on machines and droids while being only able to harm organics to a minimal level. Cyfiero 11:31, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, don't know much about game mechanics. I was talking about the survival of Plo Koon and the crew members of the ships that get hit by the Malevolence. We see their electronics getting sparks running across them inside the bridge, but the living crew (with electrical currents running through their bodies) are not affected in any noticable way, that's why I mentioned some sort of insulation that keeps the crews alive. 126.96.36.199 11:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Oh, sorry I don't watch the Clone Wars cartoon... hate it. I don't know, maybe because it's late at night that's causing me to continuously skip words as I'm reading, such as the part you said "for the crew." Anyways, sorry for the confusion, I get what you're saying now. ;) Cyfiero 11:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)