This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments or questions on this topic should be made in a new Knowledge Bank page rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. Graestan(Talk) 02:55, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
ok, after reading the TFU novel and playing the Wii version of the game, i noticed that there are MAJOR differances. Which is canon?
Kota is found in Cloud City
No Merc or Lobot in cloud city
Garm is found at Correlia
Galen has vision of him batteling his dad on Kashyyyk
Skyhook above Kashyyyk
Kota is found at a bar in Nar Shaddaa
No stormtroopers in cloud city, only Merc troops and Lobot
Garm is found in cloud city
Galen has vision of dad in the jedi council chamber
UMMM, im pretty sure there is a skyhook on kashyyyk in the game, it's in a clear cut scene. It's that cone-esque thing that radiates a beam into the sky. yea. and i also think the novel trumps anything.Venku Skywalker 13:20, 26 September 2008 (UTC)Venku Skywalker
I think the book and comic take precedence over the game as far as canon goes. If there are conflicting elements whatever the print source says is supposed to be more accurate. On the other hand,everything that is not game mechanics is labeled C canon just like books/graphic novels. See canonChally1985 13:15, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Are these differences also in the PS2/PS3/DS/PSP/X360/iPhone versions of the game? If the other versions of the game are closer to the printed or graphic version, then the Wii version is just weird. But if ALL the games have the same weird difference, then it's up to Leland I guess.Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith 15:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't know about the novel and graphic novel, but I have the Wii version and my friend has the 360 version, so I think the canon is a compilation of the different versions of the game. For example, the Wii version has the Jedi Temple levels and the 360 has the Skyhook on Kashyyyk, so I think both are canon, as for where Kota's found, as JediBob said, in the Wii version his on Nar Shaddaa, and he's found on Cloud City on the 360 DarthDragon164Dragon's Lair 21:17, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Frankly I think that the whole Rahm on Nar Shada, and Garm on cloud city should not be canon. We should still consider The whole Jedi Temple training to be canon. By the way, some dolt who thinks he knows stuff is posting non-canon material on the shadow guard page.User:Revanthereformer1138
This might be a logical conclusion: The graphic novel (and possibly the novel; I haven't read it yet) was told from the point-of-view of PROXY, who was not ACTUALLY present at some of these events that differ. The video games actually FEATURE the events themselves, from Starkiller's point-of-view. Could we say that the video game is therefore MORE canon, since we witness the events, rather than are told them by a 3rd party.Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith 17:22, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, here's what's going on: In pre-release materials for the project,. it was confirmed that, although the games would feature different endings (etc.) the novel and the comic would follow the one "true" storyline. Thus, the events in the the novel and comic take presidence over those of the game. Of course, if there's no direct conflict, one can assuming "a different point of view." (for example, a scene that is present in TFU Wii version but not at all anywhere else would still probably be canonical) In short, although no version of TFU is comprehensive regarding the story, where there is conflict the book and comic trump. Din's Fire 997 07:14, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
It seems as though the 360/PS3 version of the game is closer to the novel/comic.
Kota is originally thought to be on Nar Shadaa (stated through dialog), but is actually found in a bar on Cloud City.
No Lobot on Cloud City. Lots of Stormies and Ugnaughts, as well as Jump Troopers, Scout Troopers, and Shadow Troopers.
Garm is first encountered at the meeting on Correlia (the signing of the 'Correlian Treaty').
Galen has a vision of his dad on Kashyyyk, though his father is apologetic rather than confrontational.
Skyhook above Kashyyyk.
Given that the "flagship" versions of the game match the novel and comic, I would say that canon leans in that direction.
I have a question relating to all of this: I've read the novel, and I remember that Galen receives Kota's green lightsaber following his "death" at Vader's hands, but I can't remember at what point he constructs his blue saber. Is it just prior to the second visit to Felucia or Raxus Prime, or before going to Corellia? I can't remember exactly when, but I know it was extremely late in what would be the game. 220.127.116.11 19:39, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Starkiller just picks it up in the medical facility.Thats after felucia and before Cloud city. Sith-venator 6:59PM 9-28-08
I know, he picks up the green one in the medical facility but builds the one with the aqua blade later. I just checked Galen Marek's page and it's between Imperial Kashyyyk and Imperial Raxus Prime, so there's my answer. 18.104.22.168 20:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Well it's blue.In the 360 version.And i think the 360 version is the most canon. Sith-venator 7:43PM 9-29-08
Eh, I have a different take on canonicity. I view the Star Wars Saga as a group of legends, much like real-world mythology, having multiple accounts of the same tales. In that respect, I wouldn't say that any of the different versions of The Force Unleashed are "more canonical" than the others, they simply differ from one account to the next. Perhaps there is a bit of truth in all of them. Also, the saber in the 360 version is light blue, so what the novel describes as "aqua" is more or less correct. It isn't the darker shade of blue that we see in the movies. 22.214.171.124 02:47, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I'd say since the Xbox/PS3 are the only versions made by lucasarts those would be canon. The wii/ds/psp/ps2 versions are made out of house Steves490 16:16, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I think that the whole Jedi Temple stuff is canon now since Lucasarts is releasing it as a down loadable level for the Xbox and PS3 games.User:Revanthereformer1138