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Forum:KB:Order of events of ROTS
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To the Wookieepedian community:
After watching Revenge of the Sith for the God-knows-how-many-eth time, I was left to wonder the consecutive order of events during the movie-specifically those of Order 66. It seemed that the Utapau order went out first, for it showed Palpatine issuing the order to Commander Cody...but it could also have symbolised the order reaching the many clone commanders across the galaxy, but couldn't be fit into the movie. What do you think?
Also: Approximately how many days do the events of ROTS take? Thanx.
My Guess is this
Day 1:Battle of Coruscant Night 1:Anankin's Nightmare Day 2:Anakin and the Council Night 2:Anakin and Palpatine at the Opera House Day 3:The Battle of kashyyyk\Mission to Utapau\Anakin's Revelation of Palpatine Night 3:Order 66 Day 4:Fall of a Republic Rise of an Empire\Anankin goes to Mustfar\Duel on Mustafar\Death of Padme
Luke and Leia brought to their homeworlds could of been Day 4 or later according to the triva section of Revenge of the Sith~Jediking12
- I believe that Order 66 was issued to all clones simultaneously. As for the amount of days, I think it is more than 4 days. Keep in mind that some time is spent on travelling between planets. Hyperspace travel is fast, but not instant. QuiGonJinn
(Talk) 10:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- I've heard that ROTS took place over nine days. I don't have a source for that, however, because I think I got that factoid from a friend. In the transmission, did Palpy mention Cody by name during the transmission? It's been a while since I watched it, but I think he did, if I recall correctly. If he did, then that specific transmission for Cody and he called the other commanders afterwards. If not, then it was most likely for all of the clones similtaniously, just due to logic and logistics. DarthDragon164
Dragon's Lair 13:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well Padme goes from people just being able to notice that she's pregnant to being full blown late stage of preganancy. the movie does seem like it takes place over a week or so, but I always imagined it was longer Steves490 19:36, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Here's the breakdown from Star Wars Insider 84:
- Day 1 begins with the end of the Battle of Coruscant and ends with Anakin's first dreams of his wife's death.
- Day 2 begins when Anakin consults Yoda and ends at the opera with the conversation with Palpy about Darth Plageuis.
- Day 3 begins with Obi-Wan being sent to Utapau (actually in the afternoon) and ends with the deleted scene showing Padme formally presenting Palpy with the Petition of 2000.
- Day 4 begins when Obi-Wan arrives on Utapau and ends with the Showdown on Coruscant, Anakin becoming Vader, and Operation: Knightfall.
- Day 5 begins with Bail Organa leaving Coruscant and ends with Yoda and Obi-Wan returning to the Temple and Palpy declaring himself Emperor.
- Day 6 is when Obi-Wan visits Padme. It ends when he stows away on her ship.
- Day 7 are the two big duels: Obi-Wan vs. Anakin and Yoda vs. Sidious.
- Day 8 is when Luke and Leia are born and Vader is placed in his iconic black armor.
- Day 9 is when the Tantive IV delivers Padme's body to Naboo.
- The rest of the movie (Padme's funeral, Luke and Leia arriving on Tatooine and Alderaan respectively, and the Emperor and Vader looking at the under-construction Death Star) is questionable as to timing. These events might take place on Day 9, or they might take place at different times.
However, the article also specifies that this is only an estimate based on "[a]nalysis of the script and internal notes". For clarification, Padme does appear to be just starting to show early in the movie, but that's because her clothing was specially designed to hide her pregnancy—Natalie Portman wore the same prosthetic tummy throughout the whole film. I would guess that she was about eight to eight-and-a-half months pregnant at the beginning of the movie, since Luke and Leia were apparently born without any complications.
As far as the question of Order 66, Palpy does indeed call Cody by name in the film. However, the adult novel indicates that "[t]he order is given once", while the junior novel indicates that the order was given to one clone commander at a time. I'm more inclined to believe the junior novel, since if it was given to all clone commanders at once, Palpy wouldn't have called Cody by name in the film. —Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 22:35, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Is it possible that he knew that Obi-Wan was on Utapau and in that making the request to Cody directly, it might have assured him greater success in removing Obi-Wan from his plans? The same might have occurred for Gree on Kashhhyk with Yoda. Then Palpy might have simply given automatic instructions for the rest of the clones not watching over Jedi of significant importance. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- That's what I always though, Riff. I figured he gave separate orders to clones watching the most important Jedi, such as Obi-Wan and Yoda, and then did the rest all at once. Chack Jadson (Talk) 12:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
In the ROTS commentary, GL says this all hapens in aabout 3 days. NaruHina Talk
04:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well that makes things interesting. I was starting to like the nine day layout. -- Riffsyphon1024 06:37, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- NaruHina, can you give me a timestamp as to exactly when he says it? Not that I don't believe you, but I want to hear that for myself. —Master Jonathan(Jedi Council Chambers) 06:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
- I remember reading this from one of the articles, see if it helps: its states that Palpatine issued the orders personally to all clone commanders under Jedi Council memebers. And then he directly issued the order to the rest of the clone commanders in bulk, which means, he personally ordered the Jedi Council member's execution before bulk ordering the execution of the rest of the Jedi. Jiang Mothma 14:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Makes sense. If the Council was killed off first, the other Jedi would have no one to turn to. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)