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If Darth Sion was aware of the existence of the 'true' Sith Empire, why didn't he and Nihilus attempt to somehow get in touch with them? If what they wanted was power, why didn't they journey to Dromund Kaas, where they could have embraced the full legacy of the Sith, and instead decided to stay with a bunch of weak assassins and droids that were left from Malak's empire and that had so little to offer? Thank you.
Where did you hear that Sion was aware of the Empire's existence? CadeCalrayn 19:26, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
He tells the Exile "[the Trayus Academy] is the threshold of the borders of an ancient empire" and that "it lead one to the Sith... the true Sith... and all their shadowed worlds". He knows all this because Kreia told him.
It didn't serve the purposes of The Sith Lords's storyline, I guess.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 20:04, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
LOL That's the easy answer!! Something a bit more elaborate, please.
Recall what Traya said abotu Nihilus, that he cared nothing for the Sith or the teachings, just his hunger. And Sion was concentrated on killing every Jedi he could find. Neither are men who would want to be subservient to the Sith Emperor.—Jedi Kasra ("Indeed.") 20:41, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
Now that makes sense!! Thanks a lot.
At least Nihilus should be interested in consuming the force from all the sith in the Empire. That would feed his hunger a lot, especially when it was very few jedi.Overlord Divine (talk) 21:02, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, if the Exile hadn't stopped him, he would probably have consummed Atris, Bastila and what few Jedi remained, then he would have turned on his allies, and finally he would have had no alternative but to delve into the Unknown Regions and feed on the True Sith.
Sion and Nihilus could have cared less about the legacy of the Sith, they were simply consumed by their own desires to destroy and feed. Nothing more, nothing less. Plus the Emperor would not have cared much if they would have gone to him which they wouldn't have done as Sith Lords don't tend to like sharing power. Remember Malak and Revan betrayed him and since Nihilus along with Sion were followers of them I can't imagine the Emperor would have been pleased to see them.
Now there's also the fact that the Emperor could have destroyed Nihilus and Sion with little effort. If they were killed by Metra Surik and Surik was no where close to a match for Vitiate the Triumvirate wouldn't have stood a chance. That trio of Sith Lords really weren't trying to create any empire of their own. Traya just wanted to destroy the force, Nihilus only care about feeding, and Sion was only about killing Jedi. 126.96.36.199 23:38, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
On the contrary, Sion could channel his hatred to withstand any amount of physical pain and Nihilus was capable of leeching the Force from an entire planet, two rather unique abilities the Emperor wasn't acquainted with, and Vitiate was always fond of broadening his knowledge of the Dark Side. Supposing they had ever met, I think he would have wanted to have them by his side, at least to learn from them what he could. As to a fight between the Empire and the Triumvirate, the former had a much better army and so on, but Sion and Nihilus in five years nearly destroyed the Jedi with far less resources, something which the Empire couldn't accomplish even though they were thirteen centuries preparing themselves for the war...
Not true. Sion's ability to withstand physical pain would have offered little to no protection from an attack of dark side energy. A wave of darkside energy potentially made more powerful through the influence of Sith magic could have destroyed his body entirely. Remember the Exile killed him, obviously his pain tolerance made him far from invincible. Again if Sutrik was able to beat him and she was not a match for the Emperor it's rather naive in my opinion to think Sion would have succeeded where both Revan and the Exile could not. As for Nihilus you are aware that the Emperor could do the very same thing, in fact he did drain an entire planet before shortly before the Sith exodus after the Great Hyperspace War. Using Sith sorcery Vitiate drained the life force of every living thing on his homeworld of Nathema granting him near imortality, so if anything he would have been the one teaching Nihilus a thing or to. Read the Emperor's page and the related articles. Moreover I did not say anything about a fight between the Empire and the Triumvirate, what I said was about Vitiate and the three Sith Lords not their armies. However since we're on the subject there is no data as to the condition of the Emperor's forces during this period thus to make any conclusions relying on that knowledge are speculation at best. The Empire likely would have had many Sith Lords while the Triumvirate had few actual trained saber wielders so this would also make a sigificant difference though we can't know for sure. At any rate you must also remember that the Jedi Civil War where many Jedi turned or fell preceeded the Triumvirate's purge and so Sion and Nihilus were fighting an already significantly weakend opponent. Not only that but there was little leadership in that faction which is why Revan's legacy collapsed entirely a very short time after the deaths of the Triumvirate Lords.--188.8.131.52 00:32, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
This really isn't the place to discuss this, as it's turning into a X vs. Y thread with a lot of speculation. Please take this discussion to a forum or something. CadeCalrayn 00:34, March 14, 2013 (UTC)