Forums > Knowledge Bank archive > KB:So, what exactly is the difference between non-attachments in the Jedi Code and how Palpatine does things?
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I've been mulling over this for quite some time, and I honestly am not sure how exactly the whole "non-attachments" policy of the Jedi Code is any different from how the Sith does things, namely Palpatine/Darth Sidious? I mean, throughout the Prequel Trilogy, it's made clear that having attachments at all, extending even to raising a family, is one of the leading paths to the Dark Side and is thus forbidden for members of the Jedi Order (as well as strongly implied to be one of the main reasons Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader). However, I also noticed that Palpatine/Darth Sidious, a Sith Lord, seemed to actually practice the whole non-attachments thing pretty well considering he callously disposes of quite a few people who placed some degree of trust in him the same way one disposes of pawns or broken objects (Dooku, Maul, Darth Vader [twice], the Separatists, etc., etc.), not to mention betraying those who would be considered family (his biological family, certainly, definitely also Darth Plagueis, his Sith Master and someone who definitely treated him like a son.), and if his temptations to have Anakin and Luke embrace the dark side are to be believed, he probably would even risk killing himself just to have the prospect of turning someone to the dark side, meaning he may not place too much value on his own life. It in effect makes the Jedi Order no different from the Sith Order, really, which really doesn't paint a very good message.
Can someone please explain how exactly the whole "non-attachments" thing is even a remotely good thing regarding what the Jedi Order practices or especially how exactly it makes them different from the Sith? Because I think George Lucas really dropped the ball there, especially when the way they described it, the only kind of person who could perfectly adhere to that aspect would be a total self-serving psychopath, maybe even a nihilist at worst. Was it explained in that Old Republic thing where one of the high-ranking members of the Jedi was actually a mole for the Sith? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:47, July 11, 2015 (UTC)
There's a lot more to it than simply non-attachments. Just because two people follow a guideline that doesn't automatically make them the exact same type of person. Republicans and Democrats both generally believe that murdering people is wrong. That doesn't mean they suddenly share the same views on everything just because of one similarity.--Hobbie (talk) 20:02, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
I think the reason behind the jedi's is that attachment can lead to jealousy and possessiveness, and both those emotions are not healthy (especially when one has uber-force powers of awesomeness). The reason behind the sith's is a craving and yearning for power at ANY cost. The thing is, this is only true of the jedi just before the republic became the empire, the old republic jedi had relationships and families. In the republic commando books by karen traviss, it mentions a group of jedi who still practiced family life, and because of that they are shunned by the other jedi, like that one cousin who went to jail and nobody talks about... ;) Anakin's fall was the FEAR that the jedi had about possessiveness: One is willing to sacrifice their ideals to protect that person at any cost. And of course, fear is the path to the dark side... Manoof (talk) 04:59, July 28, 2015 (UTC)
In the Legends Canon, some Sith such as Darth Malgus, Darth Zannah and others were in relationships, if that adds anything. Additionally, there were many families in the Lost Tribe of the Sith, so obviously the Sith were not anti-relationships. Most of them ended poorly for various reasons though. Sithpiciously Evil (talk) 16:37, August 19, 2015 (UTC)