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I was watching Revenge of the Sith last night and was reminded of my least favorite part of the entire Star Wars saga: the battle droids that act like humans. In Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones the droids were droids, and they acted how programmed droids would. But in Episode 3 they wince in pain when hit, they show human emotions, and their movements aren't efficient and robotic like a designer would have programmed them to do. Just watch the Vulture droids take off in the big space scene at the beginning of the movie. Metal mass-produced droids moving and acting like humans gets to me. But enough of my rant... onto my question.
How is the sudden evolution of the CIS battle droids explained canonically? Obvoiusly in the real world it probably had something to do with the droids acting like that in the Clone Wars cartoon that had just come out, and the fact that everybody hated Gungans (except me) and George needed to shift the comic relief to something else. But in the GFFA is there an event of piece of technology that caused the shift?
PS: Episode 3 is riddled with anthropomorphic droids and vehicles that seem out of place. Like Grievous' crawling/rolling vehicle, the vulture droids, the battle droids in the first half hour of the movie especially (one gets mad and kicks R2, one sarcastically says "You're welcome" after Grievous takes the lightsabers from it, etc.)
Out of place? What about devil-men or teddy bears? Also, C-3PO acts very human and in Return of the Jedi some droids get hurt when they were tortured in Jabba's palace. As for your question, I thought I saw an explanation in a Clone Wars book. BTW, The Clone Wars cartoon came after ROTS. Zakor1138 01:03, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Anthropomorphic means "man-shaped", something neither Greivous' wheel-bike nor vulture droids are. In what way do they take off in a "human" fashion? Last I checked, people can't fly. I also never interpreted the droid saying "You're welcome" as sarcastic; indeed, he seemed obliviously sincere, as one might expect from a robot. And how can you tell the droid that kicks Artoo is mad, and not just neutralizing a clear threat in the most efficient manner? Droids have been capable of torture, genociderudness and greed for decades now, not even taking into account that no-one has a problem with Threepio and Artoo's "humanity". That's probably the easiest explanation, right there: The low-quality battle droids never got memory wipes, and even in the few short years of the War managed to develop a cascade of quirks that manifested themselves army-wide. DD97Which bear is best? 02:02, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Anthropomorphic means having human motivation, characteristics, or behavior, and although R2 and 3PO act like humans, that's what they're programmed to do. Battle droids aren't programmed to be around humans, they're programmed to kill them and be mindless drones of the CIS leaders. Take for example in Episode one, when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan free the naboo pilots. The battle droid says "Halt... Where are you taking them?... Coruscant, that doesn't compute, uh, wait, uh, you're under arrest!" The battle droids are very mechanical, and believable drones with limited individual thinking capacity. Then in Ep. 3 they're all like human soldiers with feelings and a low pain tolerance. I can understand that kind of thing in Astromech or Protocol droids, but battle droids? Just seems wrong to me.
You're more incorrect in your definition of the term than I am, but regardless, Artoo was neither anthropomorphic in form nor function, at least initially. He was most definitely not originally programmed to behave like a human, he developed that over a period of time, one devoid of standard memory wipes. That's as plausible an explanation as to why these traits developed as any. Multiple sources indicate a lack of memory wiping is the primary cause of droids developing personalities. It's very plausible that the Separatists did not have the time, resources, or inclination to schedule wipes, and the substandard nature of the droids' mass production lent to a faster-than-usual corruption of their systems. Hence, wacky battle droid hi-jinks. Rampancy has it's goofy side, apparently. DD97Which bear is best? 17:45, October 29, 2011 (UTC)
Very interesting point. I can definitely see where you're coming from, and R2 does seem much more "stock" in Episode 1 than in 2-6.
Oh, and Clone Wars was a TV series in 2003 for a while before it got reintroduced in 2008.
No, the two Clone Wars shows are not the same. The original Clone Wars toon was part of the original Clone Wars multimedia project. The 2008 one is a totally different one. Zakor1138 00:59, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
That droid in the Theed Palace hanger bay in episode 1 when the jedi were rescuing the pilots seemed pretty cool to me.
He kind of looked like Axl Rose when he said "You're under arrest!"40 Year Old Virgin 13:31, October 30, 2011 (UTC)
they earned personality after the invasion of Naboo, because only one ship controling a army was inefficient soo the CIS gave the droids indepedent thinking**