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I've been reading a lot of pages and article's on here lately. Who knew the Star Wars Legacy stretched this far. Anyway, I've been wondering (As nothing has come up from the articles I've read) Has there ever been a person that has demonstrated the uses of both the Dark and Light Sides of the Force? And I don't mean starting a Jedi and turning to the Dark side. —Unsigned comment by188.8.131.52 (talk • contribs).
Darth Caedus drew on the love of his family to enhance his Sith Battle meditation. Also Cade Skywalker used Dark Side healing powers while fighting as a Jedi. I hope that helps. Steves490 01:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Kyle Katarn was known to use several dark sided abilities on many occasions. NaruHinaTalk 04:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
As previously stated by NaruHina, Kyle Katarn can be seen many times using powers from both sides of the force. Check out Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II to see an example of this. In the game it depends on your play style, but you can choose powers and abilities from either side as you progress through the game. sonofskeletor 06:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Also you could put Jaden Korr from Jedi Academy into that same category --CT-1987 19:30, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Depending on how you play, all force-users on Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2 can use both dark and light side powers. Gmalek 14:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I would say non-organized force sensitives, such as witches and disciples of so and so order would be able to access dark and light powers of the Force LordCaedus 07:28, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
"Remember: abilities are not inherently good or evil, it's how you use them.". Kyle Katarn isn't exactly a user of both the dark side and the light side. Antonstaen 16:04, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
That's not the standard view of the Force (although I'm with your argument here). There are sources that state specific powers belong to specific sides. Your thing is more of a radical idea put forward by some Force-users. SoresuMakashi(Everything I tell you is a lie) 23:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Ood Bnar, a Neti Jedi Master who lived for centuries but was prominent in the eras pre-dating the Great Sith War, could use both the dark and light sides due to intense mental discipline. His use of the dark side, however, was purely academic, and he didn't teach just anyone the philosophies/techniques associated. Kreia (as the Sith Lord Darth Traya) taught her Sith Apprentices Nihilus and Sion light-side concepts, leading to their insurrection against her. This is an interesting topic, especially with the limits on speculation. Jacen Solo, before his decision to fall, used the force in its entirety. His education in various Force philosophies lent him to using the orthodox light and dark sides, as well powers whose moral alignment was ambiguous. Fate of the Jedi will illuminate more on this topic I expect, and I am personally very interested on the effects of certain powers on a force user's brain chemistry, as well as how the difference in racial physiology plays out in force perception. The Jensaraii use aggression to fuel some of their abilities, such as ballistakinesis, but the effect of this on alignment or whether or not the dark side comes into play is questionable (for instance, while Lord Vader killed a young disciple of the order due to the absence of the dark side, Luke Skywalker cited them as not wholly good or evil). Jolee Bindo also could have been capable of using both the dark and light sides. It seems that the dark side is often used as a tool to achieve ends, noble or ignoble, and that many orders don't necessarily have an aversion to the integration of it or associated emotions/philosophies. Their aversion is to those who have (in large part) made the 'decision' to succumb to it or consciously accepted it as the only means with which to achieve their desired result, as these individuals have been overwhelmingly cruel and at least immediately destructive. Hope this helps, is valid, and is reasonably clear.-ForcePhilosopher
If you check the personality and traits section of his article it mentions that he had the ability to resist the corrupting influence of its techniques. He never used them in combat (from what I can tell about the character), but he did study them in-depth and instructed some Jedi in its defence through knowledge of its nature. Hope this helps.
Also Jedi master Plo Koon once reportedly use the dark side technique of force lightning against Dreed Pommel when he found him on Metellos holding a young female as a shield. His entry into the great holocron reads "I believe i acted instinctively when i extended my right arm toward Pommel and released a barrage of lightning" "...But i did not let loose with force lightning the way undesciplined beings might release stress" "...I never had any special interest in force lightning, or felt compelled to experiment with it, but i knew it was-at least in me-an innate ability. I did not feel anger as i directed the lightning at pommel's head nor did i fear for the girl's safety. I was calm and in control of my faculties. I merely acted to end the situation before any more innocents died". this would suggest that as long as the jedi using dark side techniques did not feel any emotions related to the dark side (fear, anger, hate etc), and that they did not have any strange complusion to use it, it would not have any negative effects upon them. It is just a tool to be used in the right situation. Quotes taken from page 84 of Jedi vs sith the essential guide to the force. 184.108.40.206 16:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)