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Dear mods, In the Help:Editing#links and URL, there is a brief mention of how to create a Redirect. However, it's extremely brief and not very explanatory. I needed to ask the Senate Hall for clarification on how to really perform a Redirect.

Therefore, I propose that we add an example that would help clarify this. A step-by-step example would be very helpful. This is what could be added:

For example, let's say you want to Redirect "Old Ben" to "Obi-Wan Kenobi":

  1. Create a new page entitled "Old Ben"
  2. Enter
    #REDIRECT [[Obi-Wan Kenobi/Legends|Obi-Wan Kenobi]]
    as the sole content of the page.

--Richterbelmont10 (talk) 23:09, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

I tweaked it a little. How's that? —MJ— Holocomm 23:57, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
For some reason, the first column for that section is now much wider, and that seems to make the second column nearly invisible. Would it be possible to include the example too? I think it explains it well. Thanks.--Richterbelmont10 (talk) 00:58, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
It worked fine in Monobook, which is Wookieepedia's officially recommended skin. The default skin is forced on us by Wikia so they can shove as many ads as possible in our face. At any rate, though, I've fixed the width issue, interestingly by creating a redirect. :P I'd rather not throw that whole example in there; the editing help page is large enough as it is, so we need to keep the examples short and simple. Also, the example you provided here, while informative, would not match the style of the help page, with input (including explanatory text) on the left and exactly matching output (again including the same explanatory text) on the right. —MJ— War Room 01:53, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. One last thing. It seems that page numbers are not encouraged in Wookieepedia's references. I browsed through some Featured Articles and very rarely do I see page numbers in the cited references. According to this Wikipedia page it says, "Per the verifiability policy, The source should be cited clearly and precisely, with page numbers where appropriate." Anyway, the edit page does not show you how to include page numbers in the references. Could you include that? For example:
<ref name="H2H">''[[Star Wars: Head-to-Head Tag Teams]]'', pg 32</ref>
--Richterbelmont10 (talk) 02:31, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
Well, Wookieepedia is not Wikipedia. We don't require page numbers, and in most cases, we don't use them, though it is up to the author. They are most commonly used when cherry-picking small tidbits of info from much larger sources, where it would otherwise be difficult for someone else to track down the info in the source (such as in some species articles). However, this is rare, since many articles simply summarize the events of a book from one character's perspective, making it relatively easy to find a certain piece of information if one is somewhat familiar with the book. In this case, it's generally accepted that page numbers should not be used to reduce the total number of references, making the notes and references section easier to navigate. Particularly with large articles like Wedge Antilles, encouraging page numbers would create literally thousands of unique references, so many that it would simply be confusing. Also, many books have been published in multiple format (such as both hardcover and paperback) with completely different pagination, so which page something is on can vary wildly from one edition to another. So I'd rather not put in anything about page numbers. They're not prohibited, nor are they exactly discouraged in most cases, but neither should they be encouraged. When they are used, there's no set format for them anyway. —MJ— War Room 03:06, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the info!--Richterbelmont10 (talk) 04:06, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
The advertisements can actually be turned off in the default skin. Not that it makes it any better though… Fe Nite (talk) 18:28, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

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