This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments or questions on this topic should be made in a new Senate Hall page rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. Toprawa and Ralltiir 20:33, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
I have received a cease and desist warning me not to create categories on novel pages regarding their status as "abridged audiobook", "unabridged audiobook", or "novel lacking audiobook". I believe the severe oversight of Wookieepedia is that most of the novel pages do not mention if an audiobook version was made and, in the few cases that do, they only mention it as an edition with an ISBN number. Personally, I like to know if a novel has an audiobook and what type of audio book that is: abridged or unabridged. Star Wars has only recently started to release unabridged audiobooks for novels other than the movies, but they have also neglected to make audio books for many other novels. I enjoy knowing this information and the List of Star Wars Audio Books seems somewhat unhelpful in those respects. Why is it so hard wrong to place a small category link at the bottom of every novel noting the type of audio book (or lack thereof) a novel has? That way, I can click on the "Unabridged audiobook" category and see what other novels have had unabridged versions available or click on "novel lacking audiobook" to discover what other books beside the Darth Bane trilogy lack audiobooks. Personally, I find this helpful and I'd like approval to (re-)make my categories and implement this feature. – Derek Whaley 09:23, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Personnaly I see it this way: say, Fury is the book. Its author and its content is what matters to us most. The book can be released as Hardcvoer, reprinted as paperback, made into an audiobook, translated into dizens of other languages and even omnibused under one cover with some other novels. But this is all of secondary relevance. In the infobox we list only the info about the initial release: media type, release date, page count etc. Info about the subsequent releases can be covered in another section of the article. And we don't have categories for novels lacking Hardcovers or for novels lacking translations into German - this is just redundant and audiobooks look like the same case to me. If anything, List of Star Wars Audio Books can be expanded to include release type (abridged or unabridged). MauserComlink 09:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, but audio books are a different medium than text. While translations and hard- v. soft-binding all regard the text, an audio book is an audio format, not a textual one and, that being said, does not follow the same reasoning. Every Star Wars novel eventually releases in paperback and the fact that the novels even mention the type of initial binding seems silly to me. Who cares if Revenge of the Sith was originally hardback but Rule of Two was only ever softback? It is a problem only for collectors. But I believe people want to know if a book has been released as an audiobook or hasn't, and the type of audio book – abridged or unabridged – is also important because it tells the reader if s/he needs to still read the original novel to get the whole story. I listened to the audio books for the entire Legacy of the Force series and am doing the same for Fate of the Jedi. The problem is, I feel like I missed a number of things from Legacy because all the books were abridged. It's like saying there is no difference between Attack of the Clones theatrical edition, digital edition, and IMAX edition. There are differences, some more important than others, but all but the digital version is abridged in some way Well, an abridged audio book leaves out information from the original novel so I would like to know which novels are provided with what kind of audio book or if they have none and I have to buy the novel. And it is my belief that at least some other users of Wookieepedia agree. Wookieepedia is an information tome for Star Wars, it should not omit things that could be helpful. – Derek Whaley 09:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Like I said: expand List of Star Wars Audio Books to include information about the release type. This, I would have mo problem with. MauserComlink 09:53, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that audiobook data on Wookpieepedia could better, but I don't think a category is the way to go. Mauser's idea seems workable. Nick Fel 12:29, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- As recommended, I have completely redone the List of Star Wars Audio Books page, turning it into a table with slightly more detail and better readability. I hope this alternative is alright. I also plan to add the ISBN numbers for the audio books on the individual pages and expand the list to include a list of novels not performed in audio book format. - Derek Whaley 18:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, but audio books are a different medium than text. While translations and hard- v. soft-binding all regard the text, an audio book is an audio format, not a textual one and, that being said, does not follow the same reasoning. Every Star Wars novel eventually releases in paperback and the fact that the novels even mention the type of initial binding seems silly to me. Who cares if Revenge of the Sith was originally hardback but Rule of Two was only ever softback? It is a problem only for collectors. But I believe people want to know if a book has been released as an audiobook or hasn't, and the type of audio book – abridged or unabridged – is also important because it tells the reader if s/he needs to still read the original novel to get the whole story. I listened to the audio books for the entire Legacy of the Force series and am doing the same for Fate of the Jedi. The problem is, I feel like I missed a number of things from Legacy because all the books were abridged. It's like saying there is no difference between Attack of the Clones theatrical edition, digital edition, and IMAX edition. There are differences, some more important than others, but all but the digital version is abridged in some way Well, an abridged audio book leaves out information from the original novel so I would like to know which novels are provided with what kind of audio book or if they have none and I have to buy the novel. And it is my belief that at least some other users of Wookieepedia agree. Wookieepedia is an information tome for Star Wars, it should not omit things that could be helpful. – Derek Whaley 09:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)