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It's probably not going to premiere for a while yet, but since we're now aware of some more of the details—more specifically, how it's going to occupy a unique level of internally consistent non-canon—and there are clips up on SW.com to give us an idea of what's coming, I thought maybe we could start discussion how we'll approach it once the time comes. This is a thread meant just for discussion and ideas on how we could potentially tackle it when the time comes; so we can simplify the CT process later.

SO! So everyone is on the same page, Star Wars Detours is the second animated series that was announced ages ago, and it was unveiled at CVI last week. It's to be a comedy series featuring many of our favourite characters, both OT and PT. And, the real kicker: it's getting its own unique level of canon, D-canon. This apparently means that it will be non-canon with regards to the rest of the EU, but it will have its own internal canon consistency.

So it seems we have some issues to hash out...

1. Do we tackle it at all, or do we opt to shunt it out to a separate Detours-specific wiki?
2. Following on #1, how do we publicise the decision so that we're not inundated with anons and new users cocking things up by doing things wrong/contrary to what we decide?
3. If we keep it in-house, do we amend the Detours info into a separate section of existing articles? Or do we start new articles for the Detours take on things, and stick youmay headers on existing articles where relevant?
4. If we launch (or there already exists) a Detours wiki, what do we want our level of involvement to be? Do we want to run it ourselves? Do we want to be partnered for ease of coordination? Do we want nothing to do with it?

Discuss/debate at will, all other issues and ideas welcome. — DigiFluid^{(Whine here)} 14:39, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I think we should keep the Detour stuff in the non-canon BtS section of the article. We could explain all the altered canon in there. 501st dogma^(talk) 23:42, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

• On your fourth item, I strongly suggest that we stay out of the affairs of other wikis. Being Wookieepedia, we're automatically going to be cataloging all the relevant info. Having another wiki started just for Detours would be pointless, IMO. However, if one does get started, Wookieepedia should stay out of it. General consensus has been just that in the past. When other Star Wars wikis start up, we just stay out of them. They're usually—although not always—started by people who couldn't take the rules of Wookieepedia, so they started their own splinter wiki project. Wookieepedia doesn't need any "publicity" they might give us, and we don't need the extra trouble of "baby-sitting" them.—Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 00:31, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
• We have to consider that Detours may last for several seasons. Total Drama is in its fourth/fifth season, so it's definitely true that stupider things have been successful. This would mean that, if we relegate the information to the BTS and the show runs long enough, that the BTS may become as long as the canonical itself. Msybe not for Han Solo or the other announced characters that have been in everything, but definitely on ones like Dexter Jettster, who just pops up once in a while and will likely be a big player in Detours. I'd lean towards separating Detours content into a different article for the main characters. If it's just a "they appeared in the background" thing—fanservice appearance, you know—it would be ridiculous to have a whole, separate article. NaruHina ^Talk 00:51, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
  • I think I like the sounds of that. The "non-canon appearances" section of the BTS could employ {{Main}}. Do you think we should set some sort of kb limit, or maybe just do it on a case-by-case basis? Menkooroo (talk) 02:57, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
    • I'd rather not put a number down, because then someone could have written it all out and it'll be a hair below sea-level and we won't be able to say "Hey, that looks pretty long" without an "It's following the rule." Case-by-case would work best, I think. Perhaps establish a Detours Cabal Demonstration Team for the sole purpose of making the call? Definitely incorporate {{Main}} into the main article, though. Just because we'd have a separate article doesn't mean the gist of the Detours information wouldn't be relevant to the canonical article. NaruHina ^Talk 05:40, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
      • And before someone says "We can trust people to follow the spirit of the rule," Exhibit A: Cade. NaruHina ^Talk 09:29, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
        • All right, I'll get started on the storyboards and other pre-production for stop-motion Zuckuss proposing a CT to outright treat any and all information as non-canon. Trak Nar ^{Ramble on} 08:51, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like this will be fun. I think, that if it IS canon, (D or otherwise) and it IS being published with permission from Lucasfilm, then it should go in the records. You don't have to listen to me, but I am just saying. --Aryn Tarra (talk) 18:38, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

• Personally I treat Detours in two ways: 1) where storylines of characters are non-canon but still need to be included in the BTS section of those articles, and 2) where any NEW material is created, that does not exist anywhere else in canon, that we still create an articles for those. (Ex. If Dexter mentions another one of his recipes, and I know we already have over 50 from the Dex's Diner article, so we're not ignoring even the smallest of mentions.) -- Riffsyphon1024 21:01, September 9, 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm okay with Bts mentions. However, if those Bts sections get so bloated that the bulk of the information needs to be placed in its own Detours article, then that's fine. Though, when we start amassing Detours-centric articles in the hundreds... by then I think it would be wise to consider doing a mass-export to a Detour wiki. This series could prove to merely bloat Bts sections, or it could prove to require its very own wiki. We should keep that option in mind when things here become cluttered and Bts information out-numbers the canon info for a character two-to-one. Trak Nar ^{Ramble on} 02:19, September 10, 2012 (UTC)
    • We could create articles for existing characters only if their appearances are extensive (as has been suggested), and then also create articles for any new, Detours-only characters. All of those articles could be gathered in some sort of locally-hosted Detours portal with a {{See also}} link in the Detours section of the BTS in the primary article. I'm just wary about passing off the responsibility of keeping track of this stuff when we're very much able to. Detours is officially licensed SW stuff; we keep Infinities information hosted here, and all of this doesn't seem terribly different. Darth Trayus^{(Trayus Academy)} 03:25, September 10, 2012 (UTC)
      • The difference is that it will be very protracted. Infinities have always been one-off events, that were always internally consistent and why they decided a canon level was necessary is beyond me and grousegrousegrouse. *ahem*Sorry, that annoys me more than any other part of this. This will be like they left the Inifities comics running for several years, and if that happened we would discuss exporting too. As for having articles for every little thing in it, we have the articles on the Dining at Dex's foods because they were within the traditional canon spectrum, but anything in this show will be outside it. Canon just became a space curve, people. This isn't on the same plane as everything else: it's below and to the left. As I recall, we've always been more loose with recording every little detail fromnon-canon sources in its own article. Whereas we have a million and a half "Unidentified [whatever]" articles for canon sources, non-canons have very few. Are we going to just have articles on the things that are named, or is this, simply because it's a TV show, going to get special treatment in regards to articles on brand-new things we see.? We also have to define "major" characters. Again, some of the characters warranting separate articles are going to be obvious, but even characters that aren't major, ones that merely recur, may well end up with not just a lot of information, but more information than their canonical source. It depends on what characters they want to drag into this. If we're thinking about having separate articles for the major characters, it's a small step from that to a separate wiki, where all the information will be concentrated for people interested in Detours. A wiki doesn't even preclude us from having BTS notes and linking out to it with a "{{Main}}"-like template. NaruHina ^Talk 16:49, September 10, 2012 (UTC)