This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments or questions on this topic should be made in a new Senate Hall page rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. Toprawa and Ralltiir 07:39, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I remember back in the day when we had the "improvement drive" in which the community focused on bringing quality to an article in desperate need... this was dropped. As I was combing the wiki today, I was pretty amazed at how much this place has evolved since its inception and the amount of good/featured articles. However, it seems like many of the articles dedicated to the main characters and events (Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa Solo, Han Solo, Battle of Yavin, First Battle of Tatooine (Galactic Civil War), just to name a few) are sloppy and in need of desperate work... I propose a sort of initiative to clean up these articles, which could be considered the face of the Wiki, and help them reach featured status, especially now with the Databank shut down. One user couldn't possibly do this alone, due to the sheer amount of material pertaining to the subject. DjMack 05:13, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

• I like the concept, and I think it would work if enough users got together on it. We could split up the articles and each take a section. I'd be willing to take on a section of one or more of these articles provided I have the sources. And for the ones that don't have the sources, the users that do could help them with it. Perhaps we could consider working on the Force since it is the basis of the Star Wars universe. Or perhaps we could set about to work on the lightsaber since that was our last Barn-burner, just for some more suggestions. It's not likely that the Force or the lightsaber could reach FA status since there are so much info and so many sources, but we could at least make them look presentable. I also suggest that we think on perhaps doing Yoda. That article receives many visitors. (I know that was the first article that I looked at when I first came to the Wook.) So, let's see how many other people like this idea, and we can go from here. Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 12:48, September 21, 2011 (UTC)
  • Actually I just read about the barn burner, which is pretty similar to the concept I have, except the barn burner seems more intent on turning useless articles/stubs into comprehensive ones. In regards to the First Battle of Tatooine page, I believe it was myself that made the page way back when the Wiki was starting out (and I was... 12), however I believe the raid on the Tantive IV covered relatively briefly in the article deserves its own comprehensive page. I started this a while back and dropped it, but I'd be willing to pick it up again, maybe with some assistance. Also, I suggest we improve Thrawn's page in honor of the 20th anniversary of the Zahn trilogy. DjMack 03:44, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
    • I still think that this is a pretty good idea and it is something I've wanted to do for a long time. But after giving it further thought, I'm not sure that now would be the opportune time. With the Barn-burner just finishing up and lots of personal projects, maybe we could just wait a bit till things slow down again. Thoughts? Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 13:49, September 22, 2011 (UTC)
      • Whether it happens now or another time, I'd love to see something like this happen again. I'd suggest taking one of the stories with the Template:Doom template (see here) and try to work one of them up to FA. It'd be great to take one of the really big ones (one maybe too large for one person) like Alliance to Restore the Republic or Padmé Amidala, give everyone a section or a few sources they are responsible for, and go to town. If this were to be done, it could also be coordinated through the article's corresponding Wookieproject, like the WookieeProject The New Essential Guide to Characters used to do. — Hunter Kahn 13:14, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
        • If anything, we could focus the next barn-burner on one or two major articles. Instead of the community working on numerous related articles, we could all work on one or two of the more significant articles. I asked about Improvement Drives in the SH a while back, and the response was pretty much that we abandoned the IDs due to lack of involvement and difficulty keeping the articles up-to-date after they were featured. If an article is large enough to qualify for an ID, then it's probably gonna appear in new sources frequently. MasterFred^(Whatever) 18:24, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
          • Given the Official Site's recent decision to link directly to these articles, it is critically important we improve them. Even if we cannot bring them to the complete detail required of Featured status, we've got to at least bring them up to a quality where we can feel comfortable and confident presenting them to the community of fandom at large. jSarek 10:36, September 24, 2011 (UTC)
            • Rather than make a Barn-burner out of it, this, as was mentioned above, might help with the "Character" articles-WP:TNEGTC--Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 21:00, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
              • If we go this direction (which I'm personally down for), I'd suggest we choose one of the main character that currently has the Doomed template indicating it needs massive amounts of work, like Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Padmé Amidala or Cade Skywalker. Ambitious, to be sure, but that's the whole idea. If we do it, we should probably see who would volunteer to work on it, then once we have a full list of volunteers start splitting up individual sections for them to work on. — Hunter Kahn 23:22, September 25, 2011 (UTC)
                • I suggest starting off with Luke, since he's pretty much the face of the saga for most people. Then, if that's successful, move onto the others one at a time. I'll commit to adding content based on the Rogue Squadron video games. DjMack 18:39, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
                  • Maybe we should start by creating a "Luke Skywalker task force" of sorts over at WookieeProject The New Essential Guide to Characters and asking people interested in helping out to add themselves to a list of volunteers, along with which sections they could add content from? — Hunter Kahn 19:03, September 27, 2011 (UTC)
                    • Atarumaster88 has a four-year-old Luke project here (talk page, additional stuff). The last non-bot edit to the main project page was almost a year and a half ago. I don't know how complete it is, but perhaps with Ataru's blessing we could use what's there as a starting point. Master Jonathan — ^{Jedi Council Chambers} _{Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 19:18 UTC}
                      • He gave us the go ahead, we're free to build off of it. So now if we just alot sections to different users, we can get this project going. DjMack 02:35, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
                        • I'm down for it. All my sources are prepped and ready for action. Let's get this thing rolling! MasterFred^(Whatever) 13:24, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
                          • My only fear was that we wouldn't have enough users. If we get enough, definitely count me in!--Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 14:04, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

• I would say that we should first compile the list of volunteers, but not get started until we have enough. It's a big undertaking and it's not going to work if only four or five people are up for it. I personally volunteer though. — Hunter Kahn 15:05, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sign ups (Luke Skywalker)Edit

1. Here we go!!! MasterFred^(Whatever) 15:41, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
2. — Hunter Kahn 16:43, September 28, 2011 (UTC) (see below)
3. Eh, let's hope we can get something going.--Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 19:33, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
4. I'll create a cohesive Rogue Squadron/war against Moff Seerdon section for starters. DjMack 00:51, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
5. I'll do as much as I can with my limited editing time.--Exiled Jedi (Greetings) 04:15, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
6. Just for Rebel Force. Corellian Premier^{All along the watchtower} 21:51, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

How about no?Edit

• While it's great that you guys want to improve articles, keep in mind, many are doing individual projects now. The reason why, and correct me if I'm wrong for those who were here from 2005-2007, the reason why we had those improvement drives is because the Wook was young and the articles just plain sucked, to put it in layman terms. If you want to work on Luke Skywalker, there's already a huge project, albeit somewhat dead now, but it can be rejuvenated. Look here and sign ups are there as well. JangFett ^(Talk) 04:23, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  • True, and I said that many have personal projects right now (including myself), but I don't see why we can't work on it if we think that we can make some good. I'm not working on it to take it to FA status, because I think that would be next to impossible. If we get this thing going, I'm going to be working on it just to improve the article, not to take it to FA status. And we might not get the whole article done, but even if we just take whatever users have signed up right now and each takes a section, that would be five sections that have been improved. I think even the smallest improvement is worth a shot.--Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 12:55, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • Exactly. There really isn't a main goal aside from just making the article better. MasterFred^(Whatever) 15:56, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
• Just so everyone understands and knows what I'm doing, I'll probably work some on Luke if we get around to it. But, this ID is not binding. I'll probably do some work on a smaller section, then call it good. My only point in being a part of this, is just to see the article improved just a little bit. Because a little improvement is better than none. I also strongly advice you to look over this. You may find it helpful in your quest, and maybe we could just work some more on Ataru's version of it. Whatever anyone decides to do, I say good luck.--Cal Jedi ^{(Personal Comm Channel)} 17:02, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I'll probably just do stuff from the films and any games I have. MasterFred^(Whatever) 18:03, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
    • My thoughts were that once we have a full list of volunteers, and if we determine we have enough to work on the page, then we can divide up which sources each volunteer would take. — Hunter Kahn 18:36, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
      • Yeah, we should work on Ataru's workspace for now, and copy it over once we have made considerable progress. I already began working out it, I added the "Beginnings with Rogue Squadron" and "Campaign against Moff Seerdon" sections, which are complete. DjMack 19:47, September 29, 2011 (UTC)
• OK, I suggest everyone who signed up above also sign up on Ataru's page. He's got things pretty well set up over there, even if it's a little out of date. I'll start work on the movie stuff soon. MasterFred^(Whatever) 13:11, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
• Sorry to bow out so early here, but some real life circumstances are going to require me to take a break from Wookieepedia for a little while, so I won't be able to participate in this for a bit, sadly. Sorry about that! — Hunter Kahn 03:50, October 6, 2011 (UTC)