Forum:SH:On the canonicity of the "Nal-Huttese" font
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Some time ago, it was noted that a Huttese poster in Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy was consistent with a fanmade font that could be found at http://www.geocities.com. I've just decided to replay Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, and I have found three new readable inscriptions: OPEN, CLOSED, PARLOR. At the time, it seemd the game developers had endorsed the font, but the original geocities mapping only possessed letters from A to N. Time went by, and this font has appeared, with the missing letters added in. While playing SWTOR, I found inscriptions on Coruscant that are readable with this font ("THE SUN SHALL RISE" and "BLACK SUN"). This gives no less than fifteen "canonized letters": A, B, C, D, E, H, I, K, L, N, O, P, R, S, T, U. Though fanmade, it seems pretty much confirmed that the font has been endorsed. Would it be proper to include a chart, perhaps only with the "confirmed" letters? --LelalMekha (talk) 17:39, August 6, 2012 (UTC)
- I've thought about this since you posed the question, and I think all we can say is that there was a script out there that was found in locations X, Y, and Z in such and such a context, and leave it at that. However, everything you've suggested here should go in the "Behind the scenes" section. There, we could perhaps post a character chart of the full typeface, but perhaps highlight the letters that seem to have been canonized. I say seem because, while your research here suggests strongly that this font has be canonized, we need to await official word of it. Others may disagree and say it's not original research to conclude that graffiti that spell things in English when you use this font should be considered canonization of the font itself. ~Savage
07:47, August 24, 2012 (UTC)
- Wait, is Huttese writing system the same thing as the typeface you are talking about here, Lelal? ~Savage
12:13, September 7, 2012 (UTC)
- There are these links:
- The Complete Wermo's Guide to Huttese
- Tommy of Escondido's Alien Fonts - Nal Huttese by Mike H. Lee (original link)
- Tommy of Escondido's Alien Fonts - Nal Huttese by Mike H. Lee (updated link) The original Mike H. Lee fan-made font may (or may not) have been retroactively made canon by its inclusion in Star Wars: The Old Republic.
- Now if I remember correctly the original A-N letters were obtained from one of the lucasarts websites around the time of the Phantom Menace release. I think they were flash based and switched from Huttese to basic or Huttese to Aurebesh. It may have been the Pod Racer website or the Phantom Menace game website but I can't recall. If we can establish which licensed site showed them then we could at least establish those as canon. Jartka'irn (talk) 16:30, September 7, 2012 (UTC)
- It may also have been on the flash version of the episode 1 comic on the official starwars.com site or another such page. Either way I'm fairly sure the A->N letters were gathered from an official online source and converted into a font by Mike H. Lee. If someone can track him down maybe we can ask him. Jartka'irn (talk) 03:46, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, Savage, I'm definitely talking about the Huttese writing system typeface. And although the original Geocities font only featured a limited set of letters, a new complete version has recently surfaced, and I suspect the developers of SWTOR used it in the game. --LelalMekha (talk) 09:30, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
- It may also have been on the flash version of the episode 1 comic on the official starwars.com site or another such page. Either way I'm fairly sure the A->N letters were gathered from an official online source and converted into a font by Mike H. Lee. If someone can track him down maybe we can ask him. Jartka'irn (talk) 03:46, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
- Now if I remember correctly the original A-N letters were obtained from one of the lucasarts websites around the time of the Phantom Menace release. I think they were flash based and switched from Huttese to basic or Huttese to Aurebesh. It may have been the Pod Racer website or the Phantom Menace game website but I can't recall. If we can establish which licensed site showed them then we could at least establish those as canon. Jartka'irn (talk) 16:30, September 7, 2012 (UTC)