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The current version of Wookieepedia:Notability policy states that Subjects that both appeared within new canon material and received names and backstories within material that falls under the Legends brand shall not receive new canon articles until they receive names in material that is considered canon. (...) Once a subject's name is established in a new canon source, whether that be new material or old material that has been designated as canon, it can receive an article detailing its existence in the canon continuity.
I'm not sure how this applies to a couple of articles: the unidentified head-bumping stormtrooper is a movie-only character, who was never identified in any old EU source. Currently, the article is marked as Legends, even though the single appearance and all the sources (except maybe the Insider article) should all be valid for a canon article. But the guy hasn't been named yet, and I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't in the near future. If Wookieepedia had an EU notability policy as of March 2014, this article would probably have passed it due to the OOU significance of the blooper.
Similarly, the unidentified hunched individual hasn't been named, but assuming the alien design isn't entirely cut from Ep. VII, the character has some significance as one of the first characters from the new trilogy to appear on screen in costume. This would be true even if the character isn't given a name.
So, how should these edge cases be handled? —Silly Dan(talk) 16:25, May 24, 2014 (UTC)
Just make the canon articles have the same names as the Legends names until a new canon source contradicts it, which probably will never happen, they aren't going to override people's names just for the hell of it. You can pull names from all kinds of obscure places like action figures, merchandise, quotes from George Lucas on talk shows, whatever, but Legends material is no longer valid? Non-canon or not, I think it should still be considered a good source for people's names. Then just hyperinclusionistly make articles for every little thing in the movies no matter how little canon information there is, then there won't be edge cases. That's my two cents. -- Xell Khaar (talk) 01:19, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
Except you're saying to assume, which is against our policies. It's speculation to assume that any Legends information will be kept in the new continuity, and judging by The Clone Wars and the official site's lack of respect for existing continuity before April 25, it's ridiculous to assume anything. CadeCalrayn 02:47, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
That's not what I was asking about: I'm OK with the way the policy treats characters only named in Legends material. I'm just wondering if some policy is needed for canon characters who don't even have "Legendary" names. —Silly Dan(talk) 03:12, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
I'm only guessing that in the stormtrooper's case, he probably would need a canon article that would have all of his links be directed to canon articles, as well as remove any other terms or names in the article that are Legends only. --Clonehunter(Report your W.M.D.) 15:40, June 4, 2014 (UTC)
I'm confused...if the source is purely canon unidentified head-bumping stormtrooper then why would it possibly be listed as Legends? What "Legends" information was provided? It is 'canon' that a stormtrooper bumped his head in pursuit of Leia. As for the unidentified hunched individual I would support marking him as Legends until he appears in an official source. Charity drives and toy ads etc. should aren't explicitly listed as canon in the new system so if it's not from the tv shows or the movies then it's legends for now. --praguepride(Talk) 16:46, June 4, 2014 (UTC)