This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments or questions on this topic should be made in a new Senate Hall page rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. Advanced Jedi Training Droid 6(Talk to my master) 00:05, March 12, 2015 (UTC)
Is there currently any policy on the use of videos on the wiki? I read something about there being a blanket ban once, but attitudes have changed and the page that I saw linked as containing the information regarding the ban, Wookieepedia:About, no longer has anything to say about the matter. Also, back in June, Toprawa, an admin, posted a video of the Smoking PSA, which has since garnered over 1000 views. So, how about them? I haven't checked it yet, but I know Wikia has its own videos wiki, and I know from experience that any videos posted on there are cleared for use anywhere on Wikia where they'd fit. I can't think of any particular reason why we ought not post, say, the trailer for The Force Awakens, or any of the trailers for the other films for that matter. Some of the book trailers and such might not be a bad idea, either, or any other general official and free promotional videos that provide good information. ProfessorTofty (talk) 03:03, February 8, 2015 (UTC)
Wow. That entire thread is full of mess and hyperbole. So, case-by-case, huh? So how about some more cases, then? Again, why not have something like the trailer for The Force Awakens? ProfessorTofty (talk) 20:35, February 8, 2015 (UTC)
The Smoking PSA was only "uploaded" because it is not accessible in any other format and is only on a third-party YouTube account, creating the risk that it could be taken down on copyright grounds, leaving us with no way to access the video. Relevant to that, we also thought at the time we made that decision that hosting the video here would actually upload it to Wikia, giving us a separate copy of the video under our control. We didn't find out after the vote was closed that "uploading" a video to Wikia only causes the original video to be embedded, meaning that we are still at the mercy of the owner of that third-party account, and that basically eliminates any reason to host any further videos (Wikia does not directly host anything that they do not have an explicit license for). Note that even if we could create a copy under our control, anything on the official Star Wars YouTube account would not fall under that reasoning, since such videos are not at risk of being taken down as copyright infringement.
That said, it has been almost exactly two years since the CT decision linked above, and with the significant turnover in editorship and various other changes since then, I wonder if it might be time to reopen that discussion and see if consensus has changed. —MJ—Holocomm 07:15, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
As I mentioned before, Wikia has its own video wiki on which they make a number of videos available for use on any wiki on the site. If copyright is a concern, the risk of any copyright complaint stemming from those videos is nonexistent. Even if not those videos, I think the risk is at worst minimal. There seems to be an unnecessary level of concern regarding it, as well as regarding the idea of Wikia swooping in and taking over like a virus or something, which, again, from my experience with the Harry Potter Wiki is not going to happen. BTW, I was highly amused looking at the video upload form on here - "If you click this button, you will be banned!" Ooookay! ProfessorTofty (talk) 14:25, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
It's not really an issue of us falling afoul of copyright; we know full well that Disney/Lucasfilm wouldn't make such a serious move against us. The issue is that our primary focus remains building the encyclopedia; we are not a general-purpose fansite. And having dozens of videos scattered around the site, purely for the sake of having those videos, does not help us build the encyclopedia. Thus, we don't host videos. The issue with the Smoking PSA is that the only known copy of that video is on some random person's YouTube channel, and that is a concern that it could be taken down—either by Lucasfilm on grounds of copyright, or by YouTube if they were to shut the channel down for violations of their community guidelines on other videos, or simply by the owner of the channel on a whim should he or she decide not to keep it up any longer. Having a copy under our control was the goal of "uploading" it, so that we knew we would have a copy safe from being taken down. As we found out that we didn't actually get that, that kinda removes the point of hosting any videos at all. —MJ—Jedi Council Chambers 22:59, February 9, 2015 (UTC)