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I noticed that both Boba Fett: The Fight to Survive and the Attack of the Clones novel were released on the same day (April 23, 2002), while the film itself came out on May 16, 2002. This means that most of the "first appearances" in the film actually appeared for the first time in the novelization, and many appeared in Fight to Survive. What do we do in regards to our Appearances sections for articles appearing in two or three of these sources? I don't think we usually add both the film and the novel to these sections, but perhaps we should if the novel constitutes the first published appearance? - \\Captain Kwenn// Ahoy! 19:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

  • If your asking, "What do we do if the same character makes their first appearance in two different medius, both realeased on the same day?" Then i suggest we use the movies (in this case at least) as the "first" appearance. Jasca Ducato 19:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    • I guess I agree with that in relation to "movie/novelization" situations, but The Fight to Survive isn't just a variation of the movie as the novel is; it's a completely different story, introducing new elements in the same way Boba Fett was introduced prior to ESB in the Holiday Special, or Grievous pre-RotS - \\Captain Kwenn// Ahoy! 19:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
      • IMHO, wherever an element of continuity makes its first appearance, no matter what the medium, it should be given as its first appearance. This includes film adaptations, as they are technically a first appearance to the public. Adamwankenobi 21:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
        • So does that mean that, for example, Luke Skywalker's first appearance was in the novelization? Either we have to implement a radical change across the entire Wiki, or our data is incomplete and inaccurate - \\Captain Kwenn// Ahoy! 21:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  • The first appearance is the first appearance of someone or someone, regardless of medium. This is how it has always been. --Imp 22:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, it hasn't, because before we've simply ignored novels over the movies. But I agree that they should be considered first appearances. I think also that all mediums should be added to Appearances section - since we don't seem to include novel, comic or game versions for film articles - \\Captain Kwenn// Ahoy! 22:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
      • The cases where novelizations have been ignored should be modified to reflect the actual first appearances. =) --Imp 22:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Fair enough, though of course that will be pretty much everything that appears in any of the six movies. Quite a lot :D - \\Captain Kwenn// Ahoy! 22:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I mean, yeah. This is going to change almost everything in the "First Appearance" area, just because of the fact that, even though a character may be intentioned for a movie before any novelization is even conceived, it doesn't take as much time for the novel to come out and it's often released before the film. Doesn't seem fair... but ah well. -BaronGrackle 21:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
    • I don't think it's any different to how Boba Fett and Grievous were first introduced - and we take those publications, not the movies, as their first appearances. We differ from stuff like the Databank in that we don't necessarily hold the movies in higher regard than everything else - in terms of canon, yes, but everything's part of the same saga, so the movies don't suddenly take precedence simply because they are the movies - \\Captain Kwenn// Ahoy! 10:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

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