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I've noticed that while all starfighter callsigns (Red Three, Gold Four) on the 'pedia are presented as names for the pilots, the CCG refers to those callsigns as designations for the starfighter itself. Now, I think the CCG may be the only place the signs are used like this, but the question is, should there be a note added to the current pages that says something like "Red Five can also refer to the respective pilot's starfighter", or should there be two article variations, i.e.: Red Five (callsign), Red Five (fighter)?

I'm not sure on the procedure for putting stuff in the consensus track, but I figured it'd be best to bring this up here and have it moved if necessary. --JMM 14:29, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, for TIE pilots, it has to refer to the pilot, because they didn't have their own ships. But yeah, that's a good question. -LtNOWIS 14:40, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Doesn't the call sign would just refer to the position in formation that you took on that flight and, therefore, refer to both pilot and ship (though only for that mission)? If you look at the X-wing and TIE Fighter games, the pilots' callsigns change from mission to mission. Bear in mind that not all twelve ships in a squadron will always be in a mission; if only two ships from Red Squadron fly, they'd still be Red 1 and Red 2 during that mission. Green Tentacle (Talk) 14:58, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I think call signs were used to refer to the pilots. Note that they wasn't based on fighter-classes and so on. Though it can sound like it sometimes. Falcon was called Gold Leader in the ROTJ. Since Falcon isn't a Y-wing this theory is incorrect. But as you say, the name of the fighter could refer to Red 5 as well as the pilot. Lorth NeedaStriptease 15:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
  • It could be looked at either way, but the call sign goes with the pilot/crew. The numbers could be reassigned though. -Fnlayson 18:14, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Again, it is the CCG that refers to the ships in this way. See two examples here and here. Obviously, the callsigns are used to refer to pilots in the books, etc, but the cards use it to mean the fighter itself. --JMM 15:37, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
      • The call sign there goes with the ship for game play. CCG is surely a lower level cannon than books. I don't see the problem here.. -Fnlayson 19:20, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
        • Actually, it's normally not a lower level than the books, but I think here we have a clear case of game mechanics, which *are* a lower level. Pilots have names, but starfighters typically don't, so it's convenient to name the starfighter after the callsign used by the pilot. jSarek 22:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

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