Forums > Senate Hall archive > SH Archive/Improved Novel Entries - Chapter summaries?

This is a suggestion that would greatly improve the book entries, and I'd be happy to be the one to get things started with it.

There are many times that I recall specific events from a book that I'd read some time ago, and would like to revisit that event and reread that part of the book. In addition, when reading a series (such as NJO) and I have a couple of weeks (or even months) away from it, getting back into the swing of what's going on can be very difficult. I can find general book summaries in some locations, and those help a bit, but to have chapter-by-chapter summaries would be more beneficial. It would allow one to follow the progression of events in the same structure in which it was presented by the author, in addition to being more complete.

I have created my own chapter-by-chapter summaries of several books for my own reference, and would love to share them, but don't know the proper venue for doing so. I noticed that many book articles here are very short, and adding a heading for each chapter with such summaries would be fairly simple. This way, my present work could get things started, and allow others to expand on it and do similar things for novels that I haven't done this for. Would this be the proper venue for this?

If not, would it be feasible to create a new Wiki for such book summaries? Or would this be a repeated there already such a source of chapter summaries?

Thanks for your input.

JediKnight321 17:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Like everything, it depends. Brief two or three sentence summaries for each chapter can be helpful for reference, while any thing longer may draw the ire of publishers. Book entries can also be improved with topics beyond plot, like reviews, relevancy, and new ground broken. My two cents. --SparqMan Talk 03:59, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
    • On the other hand, we are generally lacking in good plot summaries for novels, so having a well-written one for each book, or even for just some of them, would be an excellent addition to this wiki. Here's an example of one that I wrote awhile ago: [1] if you would like to see an existing case. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 04:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
      • Agreed, but is a chapter by chapter summary an improvement over a synopsis? That seems to be his question. --SparqMan Talk 06:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
        • Could it possibly help in times of source referencing where a minute detail can only be found with information given from each chapter noted? I'm always for larger articles and improvement however. I do like the idea of Sparq's topics beyond the plot. -- Riffsyphon1024 11:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
          • Thanks for your input. I do believe that a chapter-by-chapter summary would be much more beneficial. If you're looking for a detail, you will often remember its context. Seeing the chapter summary could help you find the item more quickly. I also think that it's helpful while reading the book, since, again, if your busy life gets in the way for a couple of weeks, reading those summaries will give a more complete picture of what happened up to where you are now without the danger of reading too far ahead (as in a synopsis) to have later twists revealed. I am thinking more than two or three sentences for each chapter. I really don't know what copyright laws allow. It's not like we're posting entire chapters...just summaries of them. Does anybody see how having these would be counterproductive to the wiki? Would I be out of line to post one or two of my existing ones and see what kind of feedback I get? JediKnight321 21:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
            • I would say go ahead...I can certainly think of times here, cut off from source material, when such a summary would have been useful. Will you post which ones you put up so I can have a look please? Jen'jidai Azazel 01:25, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
              • I've posted a chapter-by-chapter summary for The New Jedi Order: Vector Prime. Please keep in mind that the main purpose is for people who have already read it and are looking to refresh or find a detail. It is not written in a narrative form that would be interesting to find out what happens in the book without reading it. Also, I tried to create line breaks and talk about each portion within each chapter, too, so that each section's details can be kept separate. I think that this kind of summary is invaluable to those people wanting to refresh in a more in-depth way what happened in a book, or to find a detail of a book. I really hope that this can catch on and others will participate in this major improvement process. If it is well-received, I will begin posting the summaries I have for other books. Please also note that I did not take the time to add links and italics to ship names because I didn't want to waste the time if this is not the direction this community wants to go with the books, and it gets deleted. If we decide that this is what we want, I will add the links and italics at that point. JediKnight321 18:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
                • Oh, Good Lord, no. Please let's not do this. I need not tell why, I've uttered the phrase often enough. Let's just keep it to a concise plot summary. Thefourdotelipsis 07:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
                  • To be honest, I'm with 4Dot. --Eyrezer 04:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
                    • Me too; just doesn't look right. -- AdmirableAckbar (Talk) 09:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
                      • Most of us are too lazy for that. A lot of source material here don't even have the concise synopsis! Stake black msg 19:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
                        • Totally with Fourdot on this one. Besides, what about books like Force Heretic where there are no chapters? What then, paragraph summaries? Din's Fire 997 02:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
                          • Meh. Sparq said two to three sentences. This is a paragraph per chapter and is too long. I'm afraid the juicy details of the plot will have to remain in the in-universe articles. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Hmmm, the style of writing is just a bit different from what I'm used to seeing. I like the level of detail, but the organization is a bit off- the prose doesn't particularly read well and even has some irrelevant fluff that could be removed. Not a bad basic idea to do an in-depth plot summary, just needs some serious tweaking. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Talk page) 15:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)