This page is an archive of a community-wide discussion. This page is no longer live. Further comments or questions on this topic should be made in a new Senate Hall page rather than here so that this page is preserved as a historic record. Graestan(Talk) 03:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
This is not for a policy, but rather a place for discussions and suggestions. The problem is: currently there is no naming policy. The existing Naming conventions are a terrible example of what a policy should be. While the first section of that page is at least relatively precise in definitions, the rest of it is just copy-pasted from Wikipedia with all respective redlinks, non-SW examples and even links to uncompleted Wikipedian conventions. Several updates have been made to the policy, conserning specific subjects like Clone troopers and Twi'leks, but do I need to tell you that a general policy in naming articles should be established? I made a revamp of the existing conventions page, which inluded the following:
Replacing Wikipedian redlinks examples with Star Wars-related examples.
Removing Wikipedian policies on things we do not need, like currency, movie titles, aircraft names etc.
and several other minor fixes. I do realize that my version of it is still rough and not suitable to be a general policy: there are still rewordings and clarifications to be made, there are existing Wookieepedia policies, which I have forgot and so forth.
I found the subject of naming comic books and series to be especially difficult. There is currently no single style, which all article follow: some comics have Star Wars in title, other don't (Crimson Empire vs Star Wars: Legacy), some have a colon after Star Wars, other don't (see here), so I thought it would be better to leave this discussion for another CT, where a simple vote between several options could be made.
So I ask you to make suggestions and addendums to it, list the things you disagree with and so forth. Hopefully, after several fixes a decent vote for a new policy could be made. —Unsigned comment byMauser (talk • contribs).
On the comics thing, I don't know if there's been further discussion because of ambiguity with simply calling it Legacy, but there was at least a CT about removing Star Wars from media title, which is archived here. That should probably be mentioned. Wildyoda 15:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
As I've stated, loudly, in the past, we absolutely and utterly should have the "Star Wars" in the title, since A: It's the actual title of the work, and B: It does, in many cases, serve as a natural disambiguation. What I will point out is that not every piece of media has the "Star Wars" in the title, for instance, short stories, Tales stories, etc, some of the older novels, what have you. So it's not totally redundant. But the way I see it is if we're going to have characters at their full names...why not media articles? Thefourdotelipsis 07:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I think this has been an issue since 2005... I'm with 4dot on this for the most part; if not Star Wars, at least having the series title such as New Jedi Order should be required. Fixing the media problem will help with the naming standards for many of our rather awkward disambiguation pages. —Xwing328(Talk) 18:59, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I also agree with Fourdot. Star Wars is part of the title if it's got the Star Wars logo, in any of it's incarnations, on the cover. If it's got the Star Wars: The Clone Wars logo on the cover, then "Star Wars: The Clone Wars" is part of the title. As for the example of Darth Bane: Path of Destructions, Darth Bane is absolutely part of the official book title and therefore should remain. - JMASHey, it's me! 19:15, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Personally, I think having Star Wars in the title is pretty redundant, and I just don't like the idea of having to type it in every time I write the code for a wiki link. But it does seem that the series names (like Mauser has above) are definitely a part of titles. Wildyoda 21:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, let's say we drop all the discussion about Star Wars in titles, as well as the issue about series names in titles, as there is clearly no consensus. What about the rest of the stuff? Does it apply, or something else needs to be temporarily removed as well? Mauser 21:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Everything else actually looks good. If you'd remove the last sentence with the examples (since Path of Destruction currently doesn't follow the rule you have there) from Literary works and replace it with a note about series titles like what you've got under Comic books then it would be pretty much ready. Wildyoda 17:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)