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Navigation templates are, to be honest, something we probably don't use enough of. Categories are all well and good up to a point, but there are instances where a navigation template provides a more beneficial overview. From an OOU perspective, we've already got some really well-done templates for products like Shadows of the Empire, but I was thinking, with the abundance of ancillary materials "tethered" to each film of the Star Wars saga, it might be beneficial to have such a template for each "Episode" (especially with the advent of VII).
I've mocked up an example of what the TPM one would look like here:
I'm not overly good at this sort of thing and I welcome anyone more savvy to try their hand at duding it up a tad if needs be, but I think you get the gist of it. Basically my criteria for inclusion was twofold - thanks to a terrific list from Bob, we have all the adaptations or partial adaptations, and anything branded as "Episode I". Not included are products that adapt several films—in these cases (like Galactic Battlegrounds or some of the LEGO games) it would be more suitable to have templates for each trilogy, or the six-film saga at large, IMO anyway.
This isn't comprehensive in its current incarnation either - I realised that there are a whole lot of DVD featurettes and docos that we should have coverage of as well but don't, so it would likely be engorged again, but this is the basic idea. Just wondering what people's thoughts would be on implementing such a thing. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 02:52, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
I like it. It's better than categories due to its visual appeal. Additionally, I see a form of this template on Wikipedia all the time, so people would be used to seeing this already. For example, there are multiple templates at the end of this Wikipedia article --Richterbelmont10(come in R2!) 18:00, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
FWIW, I like the Wikipedia style of Navboxes. They make better use of space and are more compact. However, I understand that their Navbox template is a bit more technically involved (using the Scribunto Extension which is not installed here on Wikia), and changing all of our nav templates to even emulate that look would be... an effort. - Esjs(Talk) 19:46, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
The look of the Wikipedia navboxes should be able to be replicated here without Scribunto, which is a fairly new extension. Simply digging back into meta-template histories to find a pre-Scribunto version would provide a good starting point, from which we can tweak to our liking (e.g. rounded corners). The reason Wikipedia switched them to Scribunto (slow parsing times and technical limitations) are unlikely to be an issue here because of differences in our house style of template coding (namely, we have our complex templates fully hard-coded by substituting our meta-templates, whereas Wikipedia transcludes one meta-template inside another inside another, which causes the issues that forced the development of Scribunto). I'm willing to see what I can do in that regard, but only after RL calms down at some point between now and December. —MJ—Holocomm 21:56, October 22, 2013 (UTC)
I too prefer the look of Wikipedia's navboxes, and I think we could have a lot of very useful templates, both IU and OOU with such a look. Would anyone be particularly opposed to the Episode I template being created in its current format? It would of course be a work in progress, but I think it'd be great to make a start on these things. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 22:41, October 28, 2013 (UTC)
Could we create a "Weapons" template that would have this type of visual appeal? There have been complaints about that category. What about "Vehicles," "Starships," and "Force Powers?" --Richterbelmont10(come in R2!) 05:02, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
Force powers perhaps, as there's a finite amount... for the rest probably not, as they will be indefinitely expanded. I was thinking more along the lines of things that are usually relegated to the rather clunky and unintuitive succession box method. Thefourdotelipsis (talk) 05:14, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
There are a finite amount of weapons and starships, but I think what you mean is that there are too many to list every single one on a template. I agree with you there. How about just listing the main weapon types or starship types? --Richterbelmont10(come in R2!) 05:35, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
There are still dozens of those, and it's not exactly well-defined what the "main" types of weapons and starships. Navboxes like this shouldn't really be used for broad categories like weapons and starships. CadeCalrayn 05:49, October 29, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Cade. OOU media in particular makes for nice navigation templates, and I wouldn't mind one for each episode. However, we should refrain from combining OOU and IU material in them. 1358(Talk) 14:59, November 4, 2013 (UTC)