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After reading Tempest, I no longer believe that the dark figure Luke is seeing in his nightmares is Jacen, I am beginning to believe that it is Darth Krayt. My evidence for this is Luke is seeing a bethroned figure, and I don't see Jacen becoming that any time soon. Also the fact that Lumiya told Alema there were other Sith and that there was a plan that involved Jacen, a plan that might have been for Krayt to attack the Jedi and conquer the Galactic Alliance sooner or lay the foundations for when he eventually does. Just a thought to bring up.RushinSundaws 01:37, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Ammendment to my previous statement, also the old forms of lightsaber combat seemed to have survived the purge officially as well.RushinSundaws 01:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
    • First of all, I've read Tempest as well. And nowhere does it mention the words Shii-Cho, Makashi, Soresu, Ataru, Djem So, Shien, Niman, Juyo or Vaapad. Second of all, is this really necessary? Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Audience Chamber) 02:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Maybe it isn't necessary, and Tempest did mention Jar'Kai.
        • I agree with that, but Boc also used Jar'Kai. Jar'Kai is just two-bladed technique, which much more general than the 7 classic forms. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Audience Chamber) 04:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
          • True, but it's name was the name given to it by the Jedi.RushinSundaws 05:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
            • Luke has been studying any information he can find about the Jedi for thirty years now, I'd imagine that lightsaber forms were not the hardest info to find. Lonnyd 06:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

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