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Recently, a trend of adding articles and info from previews and sneak peeks has become out of control. This leads to articles that are nothing but speculation popping up about outcoming and unreleased projects. How does everyone feel about making a rule that a product must be released before its info can be added? Lonnyd 08:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Jsarek and I agree that certain material needs to be held back until the release date. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • As Riffsyphon noted, I also don't think we should be putting up spoiler info for unreleased works. On the official release date, though, have at it, so long as important story elements get the majorspoiler tag. jSarek 09:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Wookieepeida is in No way a spoiler free zone, sorry thats the way it is, we have spoiler tags for upcoming products, if you see an article for such a thing then tag it using {{majorspoiler}} (without the spaces). Policy has nothing against spoilers. And to be honest this happened with betrayle everyone deleted my artilce believing it to be fanon, when it wasn't, you need to trust people. Jedi Dude 10:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
      • Wookieepedia is in no way a trusting place. If we can't confirm the source, it gets deleted. I'm not saying that we can't make articles for the products themselves, just that we shouldn't make extensive edits based on unreleased projects. IE adding to the Lumiya article before Betrayal was out. I realize this could be frustrating for people who get advanced copies of books, but then you just get people not believing you and deleting your article. Lonnyd 18:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
  • There are several reasons why we shouldn't include information from advance releases which have nothing to do with spoilers. For one thing, not everyone has access to advance copies, so the information is much harder to verify. A story may also be changed at the last minute, so the information from the advance copy may no longer be accurate. These advance copies may also have been given out under some sort of non-disclosure agreement which our editors should not be violating. So, generally, I'm against this. (Having said that, anything which appears in online preview excerpts on StarWars.com, DarkHorse.com, etc., is probably fair game, so long as the spoiler template is used.) —Silly Dan (talk) 19:07, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
    • But it doesn't help to run into a bunch of Legacy comic articles when the issue isn't even out yet. -- Riffsyphon1024 02:30, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
      • The Darth Bane: Path of Destruction article is a good example. Most of the text was written by a user with an advance copy of the book, but how are we supposed to confirm any of the info? –SentryTalk 21:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
        • Well info as been added about bloodlines, so can i clean it up a bit and start adding quotes and deeper infomation ? Jedi Dude 18:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Bringing this up again, I really think we do need to restrict information from sources that have not been officially released yet, otherwise we have MASSIVE verifiability problems. It's not enough that individuals affirm they are transcribing it correctly - there's also the issue of misinterpretation, which can become quite a problem where you only have one pair of eyes able to ascertain the reliability of articles. QuentinGeorge 07:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
  • IMO, the only acceptable advance "spoilers" and other information are excerpts and other tidbits posted on official websites (such as DarkHorse, the OS or RandomHouse) that are easily accessible, and thus, verifiable. I don't think it's good enough to accept, "I got the book early, you can trust me." QuentinGeorge 07:29, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
    • True. On the other hand, I'm guessing there are only slightly fewer Wookieepedians with advanced copies of novels than there are with copies of Hideouts & Strongholds or Star Wars Kids 0. jSarek 09:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
      • I think I have a copy of SW Kids 0. Is that the one with Luke X-Wing on the cover? Is there anything we need from that issue?--Sompeetalay 18:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
        • Heh, I have Hideouts & Strongholds, so we've got both of these covered. ;-) I was more using them as examples of things that are probably rare enough that they'd be comparable with advance copies of novels. Still, I'm not sure we have ANYTHING from the Star Wars Kids magazines, so if there's something in there you want to add, it'd probably be all new info. jSarek 02:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

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