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The "u cant shut me down" guyEdit

Can either of you make it so that anons can't edit? I think with the recent spate of vandalism and the vandal's stated intention to not stop that this would be a good measure. Kuralyov 02:44, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

  • There are lesser measures that we could take, such as range blocks, without going to this extreme. Blocking all anon edits is really a drastic solution. RMF 02:48, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, maybe not ALL edits, but perhaps user page edits blocked for anons. -Stake Black talk -Contribs at 02:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • On the topic of the vandal, I got this email:
My son is so sorry for his vandalism against C-3po's, and Jar jar bink's wbsite. he is grounded eternally will never happen again. I understand his freinds are in on it too. I would not un block those websires until I get it cleared with their parents. i discovered these rude acts of disgrace to our family through an e-mail one of you fellow administrators sent. If it ever happens again please notify me a shmaullpaul@hotmail.com. Thank you. This was sent from pbenefiel@gmail.com

All I need to say is that if an adult wrote this, then I know why the kid turned out so messed up. Which is why I doubt the guy's parent actually sent it. Kuralyov 03:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

  • The e-mail seems to be in relation to the note that I left here, to which I also received a similar reply on my talk page. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 03:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Interestingly enough, I got an email as well (identical). RMF 03:57, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I got this one:

Please take off the range block.I turned over a new leaf. i will also notify my freinds of the criminal penalties that will result from this. I am going to make a wookie account starwarsisawsome101 where I will contribute to wookie instead of take away. I do not want to ruin wookie for everybody. Pklease take off the range block. Um, yeah. StarNeptuneTalk to me! 04:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

  • I quite mind calling directly to the admins without a clear consensus track decision. I'm opening the vote on the now-stagnant Forum:Registration requirement, please continue the discussion there. Considering legal threats, I propose the block for them being prolonged, not lifted. See also Wikipedia:WP:NLT. - Sikon [Talk] 06:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Maybe you misunderstood. This guy wasn't threatening us; rather, Jaymach left a message warning him. And the range blocks appear to have worked, there has been no further vandalism. RMF 06:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Darth BinksEdit

  • This is what I got from a Mr. Jack, who also goes by a Darth Binks, which I'm not aware of here:

"Dear Administrators, I'm hoping you can help out a new(ish) user from Wookieepedia. I have recently been blocked on the basis of an accusation of using sockpuppets, and I have no idea how to even go about contesting this. The "User is blocked" page which pops up says that I should try to contact the user who blocked me (Sikon, apparently) or another user, but whenever I try to write on their talk pages I get blocked again! You guys are the only administrators I could find email addys for.

So, can you please help me, or at the very least give me some advice? I would greatly appreciate any assistance you can offer.

Unless I misunderstand the listing, my block is "infinite", which I take to mean indefinite. I really don't know what the process here is. Don't I have any recourse to defend myself, or offer an explanation?

What this is apparently all about is that I was contributing to a disucussion-page debate over the canonicity of Eeth Koth's death. User QuentinGeorge accused another user, PressPass, of sockpuppetry, and now several days later myself, him and at least one other user have been branded as sockpuppets of ANOTHER user, DarthFistula. Appartently this is because something called CheckUser has discovered that we all use the same IP address; 220.239.53.31.

Has it never occured to Sikon (who I WOULD have contact directly first if I knew how) that the four users might come from a large share-house where several housemates with similar interests (and opinions) have to share a single broadband-enabled computer? Well, that IS the reason, as a matter of fact. I know for a certain that DarthFistula is one of my housemates because I asked him if that was his recently-created Username. He said yes. We're business partners and share several email addresses, BTW. I've checked with some of the others and found that one housemate is certainly PressPass; I'm not yet sure who's the user DarkLordoftheBith, but I imagine it's one of the other folks here.

I can imagine that this explanation might not satisfy some users (I respectfully suspect that QuentinGeorge had some hand in this block), but I don't really know how I can PROVE my living/computing arrangements (and thus good faith) to you guys. I really feel that this ban is rather unfair, especially since I've been given no chance to stand up for myself, and a permanent ban (as I understand it) on all of us AND our IP addy seems rather mean-spirited.

What alarms me about this is that the (apparently permanent) ban has been applied solely on the basis of this evidence without any attempt to contact me or (so far as I know) the other users, or give us any right of reply. With all due respect to Wookieepedia, that seems like a rather high-handed system. No-one involved here in the original Eeth Koth discussion was abusive or even impolite, which is more than I can say for the users (mostly QuentinGeorge) who disagreed with our point of view. Would I be being paranoid to wonder if this is some form of retalliation? I would like to hope not.

I hope you can offer some help or, at the very least, some advice. Cheers, DarthBinks."

Weird day. -- Riffsyphon1024 22:14, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

  • You could always unblock the other users, but point out the definition of meatpuppets over on Wikipedia, and that it's difficult or impossible to tell sockpuppets, friends recruited solely to take a user's side in an arguement, and legitimate editors who just happen to share a computer from one another. And, also, that blocking the IP addresses last used by blocked registered users is a completely and absolutely necessary measure to discourage sockpuppetry. —Silly Dan (talk) 22:31, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

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