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Both Decipher CCG images consist of production images photoshopped over background stills from Return of the Jedi. While I can agree that, if we truly infer information from these images, that the said characters at some stage in their lives travelled aboard a sail barge, we have no concrete evidence of when, which sail barge, or where exactly. While I could maybe (highly unlikely) bring myself to agree as per duck test that yes that Thul Fain was aboard the Khetanna with Shasa Tiel or that in the case of the Lamproid's image that it was aboard the Khetanna somewhere in the Dune Sea, I can't agree that they were present at the Battle of Carkoon simply due to the background images. Neither of the cards even make mention of the Battle of Carkoon. I believe the statements on these two pages are inherently wrong and we shouldn't be inferring anything further.
It seems to go against our aim of being encyclopedic to assume that they were at the Battle of Carkoon just because of a background image that does not even depict the battle. What are other people's thoughts on this? Bo Shuda (talk) 11:42, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
I think it depends on whether we make the assumption that all of the cards included in "Jabba's Palace Limited" are supposed to depict scenes from Return of the Jedi, including the Photoshopped images such as these. I think it's a reasonable assumption to make based on the context (all the film images are film stills or production photos), but I can see the other argument, too. ~Savage 12:28, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I think that's the assumption with which we've always gone. In Thul Fain's case, it also appears that he's been photoshopped into an actual film scene, with the aliens jeering out the window at Luke and Han behind him. Menkooroo (talk) 12:33, September 20, 2013 (UTC)
Well I think this is something that needs addressing even if it has been informally accepted in the past. In these cases, by making these broad assumptions, we're actually creating conflicting canon. Clearly the shots in the movie override the images on the decipher cards. It is physically impossible for those characters to be where they are (from the in-universe perspective of the surrounding characters) during the events of the film because they simply were not there. If we were to go by the assumptions made this would mean that a conflicting canon tag would need to be applied to these pages as is. We're creating problems by inferring too much without any written proof. I wouldn't be arguing the case were these assumptions backed up by text acknowledging that they were there. The best way I see it would be to acknowledge the inconsistencies in the behind the scenes sections, not the main body, and be done with it. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:45, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
Also, numerous comprehensive character pages such as Niado Duegad do not make these types of assumptions despite being composed of an official film still & production image merged together. Bo Shuda (talk) 10:54, September 26, 2013 (UTC)
Both the articles in question have been edited now. Indeed there is no evidence the characters being on the sail barge had to be during the Battle of Carkoon, as opposed to any other occasion. Hanzo Hasashi (talk) 06:03, November 6, 2013 (UTC)