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Why is the search funtion of this Wikia different than Wikipedia's? Because it isn't very good. I often seach for things, and either I find nothing, or I have to look through several pages of partial matches before finding an article named exactly what I wrote in the search box. Just yesterday I wanted to find out who had won the Miss contest. Typing "Miss Star Wars 2006" and several variations therof turned out nothing. I had to friggin google "Miss Star Wars 2006 Wookieepedia" to find it!DarthMRN 00:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

  • The problem seems to be with you not knowing how to use the search function properly, not with the search function itself. -- I need a name (Complain here) 00:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Excellent. No backup for the claim. And frankly, what is the point of a search function that requires special knowledge on beforehand to use?DarthMRN 00:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
    • I believe one thing that might help you in your searching would be to add the title. For example, when searching for this page, I wouldn't type "Wookieepedias search fuction sucks . . . ", I would type "Forum:Wookieepedias search fuction sucks, to put it bluntly." That might help. Also, this search function is not like Yahoo! or Google. And if I may be blunt also, your spelling might be part of the problem. Case in point, "fuction" and "therof." Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Audience Chamber) 17:46, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  • It could be better sure. I don't think Wikipedia search is that great though. Try the Advanced search here. You can use select which area (main, forum, etc) to search in. -Fnlayson 19:56, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
    • I agree. The search thing is horrible. Once I searched for labyrinth of evil (not Labyrinth of Evil), and got no results. It's so literal. Chack Jadson 20:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
      • Regarding my spelling mistakes, it should be obvious that if a search turns out nothing, I will notice any error and fix them. So no, this is not part of the problem. Do not confuse bluntness with snide comments.

Over to the sensible part. So, to make anything remotely like a search around here, you have to know what category the page you are looking for lies in? Dare I be so blunt as to say that sucks even more than previously thought. What category would I use for Miss Star Wars 2006, for instance? "Miss contests: Miss Star Wars 2006"? "Out of Universe pages: Miss Star Wars 2006"? On the other hand, making a search for "DL-44" immediately directed me to the blaster article, while "blaster weapons: DL-44" gave me some crap about Durge and Darth Plagueis, with the actual blaster article being the 64th text match, somewhere on page 4! And your suggestion for this very page only worked if I didn't have any space between colon and "Wookieepedias..", whereas in any other context you would make a small space after colon. No Google or Yahoo indeed. So enlighten me as to the finer points of the search function, please. And explain to me why there is nothing in the welcome notice about this when you need special training to use the thing with a modicum of efficiency. And lastly, explain why it is a problem to import Wikipedias search engine here. In fact, I don't understand why a legal wikia doesn't share it to begin with.DarthMRN 20:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Lately to help users find stuff better without having to type the exact thing they're looking for is creating a TON of redirect pages. But this process requires a LOT of mainly boring and menial work. For example, I created about 100 redirect pages for Marvel Star Wars so now, you can just type for example: Marvel Star Wars 77, instead of having to type Marvel Star Wars 77: Chanteuse of the Stars. But there are endless types of possible searches for just one thing so just try to stay specific whenever you search for stuff. Roron Corobb Talk NR Seal 23:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Btw, Roron. People will use the redirects but I'd still like articles to link to the full title instead of the redirect. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  • So there is no helping it other than to do lots of boring work? That certainly explains a lot. A pity.DarthMRN 00:22, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
    • To be blunt :P the search has always bugged me as well. —Xwing328(Talk) 04:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
      • I wasn't trying to be snide, and sorry if I came off that way. The search function has gotten on my nerves from time to time, but mostly it works for me. I was merely trying to see if I could figure out why it wasn't working. Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Audience Chamber) 05:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  • The search function is annoying. I searched for "Miss Star Wars 2006", and it came up with three pages that had "Miss", "Star", "Wars", and "2006" spread all over, but not the pages that have those words as part of their titles. And, might I add, that attacking debateurs' ability to spell or lack thereof is not polite and certainly does not contribute positively to the discussion. KEJ 09:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  • (Agreed with above, although the title of this forum thread doesn't exactly put anyone in a receptive mood). While the search function is obnoxious at times, usually the problem is being unfamiliar with wiki formatting/navigation in general. And the same problems manifest themselves across wikia, not just here. And you can always do an external search by typing something like "Miss Star Wars 2006 site:starwars.wikia.com" on Yahoo! or Google. That brought up relevant hits in the top 4. --Wildyoda-talk-contribs-Yoda cartoon 23:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

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