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I think we should ban insertion of YouTube content here and furthermore ask Wikia to disable this feature (and possibly external images) on this wiki. What do you think? - Sikon 18:58, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

  • ...what brought this on? StarNeptuneTalk to me! 19:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
  • There was a guy last year who tried to link the various deaths of Separatist Council members to YouTube, but it was held to be illegal to show it on Wookieepedia. As for out of site pictures, they are usually used by vandals, so I'd vote yes on preventing them from being used. -- SFH 19:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Actually, I raised this issue because of the latest Wikia "feature" that allows YouTube video to be embedded into wiki pages. - Sikon 19:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Links on some things possibly but not embedded that would become to much, and inappropriate things could slip by, if only for a short time.Joker1138(Mandalore) Neo-Crusader emblem
        • Agreed. Link, but not imbed. This is an encyclopedia, a compendium of information. I can't think of information (the type of which we would contain in an encyclopedia) that can be conveyed in a video that we cannot convey in text as we have been doing. If they want to see what we mean about something, or more information -- well, thats why the links are there Serendipitousus 05:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Like any feature on a wiki, this could be useful and could be used by trolls. However, unlike vandalizing the wiki by linking to inappropriate offsite images, a youtube link needs to (a) be clicked on by a user who wants to see it, and (b) can and will be taken down by youtube if the content is inappropriate (copyright violation, porn, what have you.) If we allow it, though, we'd need strict rules on use. For instance, we wouldn't want it in the middle of articles, and we would probably treat links to copyright infringing videos the same as text copied from the databank. But I kind of like being able to do this:

<youtube width="300">kdGZNhFArJ0</youtube>

and can see it being useful somewhere. —Silly Dan (talk) 01:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I have to say, that first one was the least impressive entry I've seen. Of course, ILM's was the most impressive, though it seems like cheating to me.--Lord OblivionSith holocronSith Emblem 05:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I tend to agree with Silly Dan that this could be interesting and useful. If it becomes a problem, we can always deal with it then. WhiteBoy 20:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
  • We could turn it into something like wookieequote (Wookiee Movie?), so it isn't in the middle of articles (un-encyclopedia like in my opinion) and they should be starwars related and NO fanon. 23:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC) (I'm not a member yet but I go to wookieepedia every day, and I am active in the community.)
  • Here's what we could do. We could place very certain ones in places like BTS sections and for references to Star Wars pages. This Colbert Report clip could go next to his section in List of references to Star Wars in television. And to make them look a little more professional, is it possible to get a frame around them? But I stress that only ones selected with be put in and not just any video. No videos on userspace either. --- Riffsyphon1024 22:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Is this inapropriate to watch? I don't think so. File:The Lion Sleeps Tonight|425--SWME 15:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, it is technically off-topic for a Star Wars wiki. 8) —Silly Dan (talk) 13:02, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Dear God, that has to be the biggest waste of CGI I have ever seen. --Imp 13:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
      • I can't see it anyway for I don't have flash activated. -- Riffsyphon1024 03:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Anyway, will we use it or not? Should this be posted on the Consensus Track? Also what exactly could we post up legalwise? Clone Wars, Holiday Special?
    • I don't see the point of using it. It's big and ugly and accomplishes nothing that a link couldn't do more discreetly. Havac 00:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

<youtube width="300">YmGzizktCiI</youtube>

  • I have to agree with Havac. Most videos there are fairly low quality. As for legality, YouTube has its own copyright policy. They've become far more strict since they merged with Google. But are the clips from the Holiday Special violating copyright laws? I'm sure Lucas wouldn't bother doing anything about it.Unsigned comment by Darth Oblivion (talk • contribs).
    • Sweet Zombie Jesus! I...I've never seen the Holiday Special before...and, it appears, for good reason. Is there more of that satanic mess that they call "family entertainment"? (No offence, Adam). .... 03:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
      • No offense taken. :) But it's not that bad. Well... no worse than Howard the Duck. ;) Adamwankenobi 14:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
        • It really is, I downloaded it a few weeks ago. There's 45 minutes of crap, 5 minutes of Boba Fett related cartoony awesomeness (though Luke and Han look nothing like them) and then another 45 minutes of crap. Too many musical interludes, terrible acting, Chewie's kid is the fattest Wookiee I've ever seen, the Empire apparently has nothing better to do than hang around in people's houses and why the hell did Leia end up singing? If you haven't seen it, do so for novelty reasons, but then drink heavily until the memory is erased. Green Tentacle (Talk) 14:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
          • OMG! I forgot to sign my comment. For that I deserve a flogging. Anyway, I also downloaded the full thing. I hate it. I think '70s pop culture turned what could have been a good show into worthless crap. Most of it doesn't really fit into the Star Wars Universe. For one thing, the technology doesn't look futuristic. I don't think the musical interludes should have been there at all. The acting was indeed terrible, with a few exceptions. I didn't think Art Carney was too bad. So what if Lumpy is chubby. Itchy is the ugliest damn Wookiee I've ever seen. If Lucas was able to destroy every trace of it, I would only ask that he save the animated segment. I would like to see that included on one of the DVDs. I believe a small part of it is already on the AOTC special features DVD.--Lord OblivionSith holocronSith Emblem 20:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
            • I think you guys are taking it too seriously. One of the biggest mistakes is to watch the holiday special expecting it to be something it's not. It's a product of 70s TV. Based on that alone you shoudn't expect anything great. I enjoy it because of its plain goofiness and because it is so bizarre. I really allow myself to have fun watching the special. In fact, I watched again recently for the first time in about 8 months, and I think I laughed harder than I ever have at something. :D Adamwankenobi 21:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
              • Fawlty Towers is a product of 70s TV, and it's still considered by many to be the greatest show ever. Oh, you mean American TV. Well....when has it ever been good? Barring Seinfeld? .... 21:50, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
                • I do believe I just got owned. :S Adamwankenobi 21:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
                  • That was awesome! I've never seen it before. Where can I see the whole thing (for free, of course)? But anyway, I think we should ban videos. Allow links but not embedded videos. Chack Jadson 22:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
                    • Try eMule or BitTorrent. Not that I'm endorsing the downloading of obscur 70s Christmas specials of course. Green Tentacle (Talk) 10:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Oh god, I'm glad it ended when it did. I can't take anymore. -- Riffsyphon1024 22:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Something Related Edit

Whenever I try to play a YouTube video, it doesn't play, and instead gives me the "share" and "watch again" buttons. I try to click on "watch again" but it still won't play. Does anyone have the same problem?--SWME 15:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty crappy with stuff like setting up youtube, so I was thinking, maybe under Palpatine or the Senate articles someone could put the sketch from robot chicken where Palpatine learns about the death star blowing up: "What the hell is an Aluminium Faclon?"

  • How does that serve the article, though? .... 23:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
    • that was the worse thing i've ever seen.I mean why is he calling it the holiday special?I mean he could just call it "Chewbaccas' Family" but instead he calls it the holiday special!?I mean it was okay at the beginning, but in the end he messed it up!this is not appropiate in the star wars universe!!!!!!!!!!!--The acklay queen 11:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

For duelsEdit

Take note that this would be covered under fair use (i think). But could we perhaps limit YouTube video's to duels? For example, we could have a copy of the Anakin v. Obi-Wan duel on the Duel on Mustafar page. Any thoughts? Jasca Ducato 21:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Actually, yes, it could be useful for battles and duels. But does that really come under fair use? .... 21:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
    • That would most definitely not be fair use. --Imp 21:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Do you really think so? I object to this idea.--SWME 15:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Um . . . lawsuit? Atarumaster88 Jedi Order (Audience Chamber) 15:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
          • Yes, Star Wars video fragments most probably don't fall under fair use. - Sikon 19:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
            • Why not? For one, would wouldn't be claiming them as our own work, and we would only be displaying the video's for reference purposes. Surely that's ok? I think it is. Jasca Ducato 19:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
              • Even if you could claim that as fair use, I suspect YouTube wouldn't allow it, and Lucasfilm would probably want such YouTube clips taken down, leaving us with broken links. If Lucasfilm officially released some clips for promotional purposes, and they found their way to YouTube, those clips would be more likely to stay up, and our fair use claims would seem more reasonable. —Silly Dan (talk) 20:29, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
                • Any chance of someone contacting Lucasfilm requesting their view on this matter? It could help clear up alot. And i think that if the video's were not allowed on YouTube then they would have been removed by now. Jasca Ducato 11:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
                  • LucasFilm has no problem with Youtube is unless the content of Hyperspace, which is only for members of the fan club who pays for a subscription.
                    • Good good, so that means we can use YouTube video's of duels for the articles? Jasca Ducato 09:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
                      • Er, no, I'm pretty sure they'd be pissed off in people started uploading, say, Episode I in its entirety onto YouTube. -- I need a name (Complain here) 17:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
                        • Of course they are pissed of if the WHOLE movie is put, but not if it's short videos or fan videos. For example, you could have a duel with some dubbing on it, explaining the duel. That won't piss GL off. Darth Jenny Rose 17:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


Hmm, was this feature disabled already? All the vids are gone, even though they still show up in the history. Odd. Anyway, I'll leave you guys with the following, since it's probably grist for a pretty good article. jSarek 23:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC) <youtube width="300">YUa6khH1A-o</youtube>

  • Hmm, okay, now they're all back. Must have been a temporary glitch of some sort. Odd. Well, enjoy Richard Pryor anyway. jSarek 23:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Ha, awesome! Except for Labria kissing Greedo ... so very wrong on so many levels. :P--Valin Kenobi 06:55, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


Could we use this for QOTD? I mean, when nominating things like Vader Sessions? I'm sure plenty of people have seen it, but it could be useful if we just put this right next to it, for those who don't know. .... 23:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


  • Naa, overall I don't think so. I mean, it contained glimpses from the movies, but the speech. It was James E.J voice from several films(not counting star wars, "Going to America" as one of them). From my point of view it's non canon material, except the movie glimpses. Some viewers may find it very confusing. Lorth NeedaStriptease 01:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Yeah...I was talking about QOTD, specifically the "References in other media" area. A lot of people don't know the context of Vader Sessions, therefore having this may be beneficial for the uninitiated. .... 04:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
      • "References in other media".

Perhaps under that heading there could be a 'parody' section containing the likes of Vader Sessions, Spaceballs, Weird-Al Star Wars songs (although I believe there's only two of them and others claimed by others to be his, such as the Star Wars rap). Darth Maddolis 08:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Errors Edit

When I tried to view a video, I got about 9 error messages. BubTalk 23:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

YouTube disabledEdit

Following consensus in the December mofference, the YouTube feature has been disabled for this wiki. Angela talk 15:43, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Hooray! Havac 18:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Whoa whoa whoa, why was this decided on IRC!?! Shouldn't a Ct have been held. Other users (like myself) might not have, or couldn't possibly reach the Moffrence, and so the vote was unfair. Jasca Ducato Sith Council Sith Campaign 20:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
      • There was more participation in the Mofference than there is on most CTs. 13 people agreed to get rid of it, and not a single person objected. Just be glad we don't decide policies on IRC every day like they do on Uncyclopedia. -- Darth Culator (Talk)(Kills) 21:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
        • If it's been disabled, how come the video at the bottom of my page is still working? Roron Corobb holocron NR Seal 21:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
          • Probably a caching issue. All I see is the text "Funny Video <youtube>DMsHSD2McAs<youtube>". -- Darth Culator (Talk)(Kills) 21:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)