During the Mandalorian Wars, Marn Hierogryph would refer to his friend, Zayne Carrick, as "Junior Saber-Twirler", among others. This was because Carrick had been a padawan on Taris until the Padawan Massacre of Taris, where he was framed for the murders by his master, Lucien Draay, and the other members of the Jedi Covenant.