Shoudl he be categorised in the Category:Redeemed Jedi? MoffRebus 22:09, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)

• Hm, toughie. Technically, the redeemed Jedi were alive when they repented. -- SFH 22:13, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)
  • However Ajunta finally went to the 'Jedi heaven' or wherever the good Jedi and other Force ghosts go, so 'technically', in the end his spirit was redeemed. MoffRebus 22:24, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)
• why does ajunta pall preceed both Adas 16,000BBY and Dathka Graush 7000BBY?
• About that catigorization thing: I dont know enough - he wasn't ever actually a Jedi was he? Wasn't he just a plain old Sith from Korriban? Lonnyd 11:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Nope. As a founder of the Sith, he was originally a jedi--Erl 22:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 A Thought 2 Spirit picture 3 Curiously Enough 4 Main pic 5 Sword pic 6 Main pic part 2 7 Sith Character 8 Sith? 9 Species 10 "I wear the chain I forged in life." 11 Lightsaber?? 12 Lightsaber continuity problem 13 Death

A ThoughtEdit

The power Ajunta Pall is talking about, what if it isn't the Star Forge, but the Trayus Academy, being that it is an ancient Sith Academy. User:RushinSundaws

I think he refers to Revan heading into the Unknown Regions just before KOTOR 2. He says something along the lines "You will find this power and you will regret it" Old Sith empire maybe? Phillowe88 20:17, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Spirit pictureEdit

I have always opposed this picture, it just took me some time to take it up: Technically, what we can see in the picture is a standard KotOR-era Dark Jedi a "spirit effect" sorrounding it. If we keep this picture, it suggests that all male Dark Jedi under the control of Malak were Ajunta lookalikes, or even better, were his CLONES. That pic should not be in the article for this reason. - TopAce 11:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

• Except that it is a picture of Pall himself. I know that the designers of KOTOR just got lazy and used an existing model, but that doesn't make it any less Pall. —Jaymach Ral'Tir (talk) 11:10, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Well that picture doesn't really show much of anything, one can barely see two eyes, the rest is all covered. As for the statue, there is a chance it's not Ajunta Pall, actually no one ever said it's him, you can see the same statue in KotOR II, Dantooine, enclave sublevel. It is just a statue. I suggest both pictures to be removed as they just cause confusion. --Jinger 07:24, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
  • If you notice not all the "Dark Jedi lookalikes" sound exactly the same either (well except the "Lord Malak was most displeased..." ones), and I think the statue was just a generic model in K2. DAWUSS 15:20, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
• Does anyone know how to try and get to Ajnuta Pall's sword because i have tried at least 5 times and i can't find out how to get by the huge stone gates. Nathomas14
  • There is a stone structure blocking the walkway to the tomb itself. What you must do is place a Detonator inside the Stone structure. This will activate the seemingly broken-down droids. Don't attack them, there is a lever on the other side of the walkway, click that and you will destroy the droids. The rest I will leave up to you. MasterFred16

Curiously EnoughEdit

In Kotor 2, when you go to the sublevels on the Jedi Enclave on Dantooine, and walk in the amptheater like room where Vrook was captured, there is a statue that looks exactly like the statue of Ajunta Pall on Koriban. However, the face is obscured by darkness, and i can't tell if it is actually Pall himself. Perhaps the game designers just copied and put it there, but perhaps not.

Main picEdit

Would anyone object to changing the main pic from the statue to the spirit as nothing says the statue is even of ajunta pall.-Darth Morder

• Well since the statue is in his own tomb, I doubt very much that it's meant to be someone else. However, the policy is to have their final appearance be in the infobox (barring if they have a real-life photo), so I'd say that it would be fine to have the ghost picture in the infobox. Cull Tremayne 01:01, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Sword picEdit

Can someone get a pic of Ajunta's sword? I would myself, but I don't have KOTOR. Telos 00:23, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Main pic part 2Edit

I have this picture from the Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force book, I think its the first real picture of him as a man rather than a ghost or statue... photo bucket dot com )/albums/ee283/tayloryea/AjuntaPall.jpg Adamqd 14:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

• If it is indeed Ajunta, I'm all in favour of having it as the main picture :). Better than a generic Dark Jedi with an effect added (surely Bioware realised it looked out of place). Sith Alchemy 101 10:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
• I have Jedi vs. Sith and that is indeed Ajunta Pall. It's an image of him first landing on Ziost with the Exiles after their defeat at the Battle of Corbos. --Danik Kreldin 15:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
• In that case, I say go ahead and make the switch :). Sith Alchemy 101 11:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
• Since we now know that he is indeed Ajunta, do we still need that bit saying that he may be the red-armoured Sith Lord, or could that still be relevant? Sith Alchemy 101 10:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
• What I don't understand, though, is why he has a lightsaber when he already had a sword that he claimed was his main weapon. Wildcard 05:53, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
• I like the way he has a power pack for his lightsaber... could we use that image (or a cropped version) in the lightsaber article as an example of an early lightsaber variant? --Kessel 19:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Sith CharacterEdit

I was thinking that his info box should be moved to Sith character. Just because he was redeemed doesn't make him a Jedi. Especially since it happened AFTER his death. 216.175.68.8 21:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC) (this is really dark lord trayus im just having log in problems)

• Hokay i put this up here almost a week ago, nobody responded. If your gunna switch it back at least give a reason. Dark Lord Trayus 21:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Sith?Edit

If he was redeemed, should he have a Jedi infobox? Yun died and he was redeemed so should Ajunta Pall? Jedi Trainer

• He died long before he was redeemed by Revan, so a Sith infobox is appropriate. Grand Moff Tranner ^(Comlink) 13:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
  • No, it isn't. Since he was redeemed, no matter when it happened, a Jedi infobox is appropriate.

SpeciesEdit

His species is not mentioned on the page (only said to be humanoid) Is it because it is not known? In KOTOR, he appears to be human (both his ghost and his statue).

"I wear the chain I forged in life."Edit

Do you think that as a spirit, Ajunta was like old Jacob Marley? He began regretting all the things he had done in life, as far as I know. 70.188.129.194 00:18, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Lightsaber??Edit

So I don't know if I'm in error, but I didn't think they had lightsabers when Ajunta Pall was around, yet I see a lightsaber on him in the main picture, what's with that?

• Lightsabers were invented millenia before Pall's time, as indicated at the article. Dangerdan97 21:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Lightsaber continuity problemEdit

I think there is no real continuity issue with the main pic. Exiles were stripped of their lightsabers and Pall arrives with a lightsaber. This suggests Pall made a lighsaber during the flight to Korriban. Tionne thinks in TEGttF 'the Exiles were either unable or unwilling to create or re-create lightsaber technology'. Maybe they were unwilling some time after the landing, but not on the ship. I suggest removing the Continuity section and adding 'arrived to Korriban with lightsaber' to the Bio. As far as I know, nothing states that they arrived without any lighsaber to Korriban. I wait a week for disagreement. Darth Morrt 19:00, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

• We now know that Karness Muur kept his lightsabre when he arrived on Korriban, so it's pretty much confirmed that they weren't stripped of their lightsabres. Or if that's the case, they're Jedi and could have made new ones. But the offical picture has him with an obvious lightsabre. Gratulor - User Page 16:39, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

DeathEdit

The article says that Ajunta Pall died in 6,895 BBY.... Where is this information from? It doesn't really make sense with Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force, since he (Pall) states that:

"Unfortunately, a few Sith Lords--I maintain they were too ambitious, for there is such a thing--were impatient to give thanks. They analysed a nav computer from the ship that had brought us to Sith space, then reprogrammed it for a return trip through hyperspace. Obviously, I tried to discourage them. Even if they retraced the same route, there was no way to calculate or even imagine whether the path had remained clear with the passage of time. With their newly gained knowledge of Sith alchemy and numerous weapons and warriors, they left Korriban despite my cautions. That was the last we saw or heard of them. Because many years have transpired since thier departure it is reasonable to suspect that they niether accomplished their objective nor revealed our location to anyone in the Republic."

If they had been gone for less than 5 years, I don't think that he would consider that "many", maybe "several" would be a better word to describe it if it was under the 5 years.—Obi-wan Jacobi 05:40, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Is the fact that Ajunta Pall was redeemed actually specifically been stated as canon? If not then I think the wording should be changed. If he truly was the first Dark Lord of the Sith, I think it's pretty dumb that he would have all that regret and redemption. The First Dark Lord of the Sith should be an epic bad guy. And epic bad guys never repent. The man who basically started the Sith should be evil to the core like Palpatine.

• What does that have to do with Ajunta Pall's death date?—Obi–wan Jacobi ^(Talk) 05:02, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely nothing. Haha I'm sorry I just don't know how to work this thing at all.

• No problem. :)

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