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Talk:Alliance to Restore the Republic

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Alliance to Restore the Republic was the improvement drive project for the week of 16 April, 2006.
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Article milestones
Date Process Result
21 September 2006 Featured article candidate Failure
31 October 2006 Failed featured article candidate
Current status: Failed featured article candidate

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[edit] Image weirdness

I uploaded the symbol of the Alliance just as it is on Wikipedia; same name, same image. When I look at this article, I still see the Missing Image message. I've cleared my cache and restarted my browser and everything, but it still won't show up. If I come to the article via the Rebel redirect, I see the image. If, while viewing "Rebel Alliance", I click on the edit link, then I see the image in the preview. But looking at the article itself without following a redirect I still can't see the image. Anyone have a clue what's going on? -- Aidje 13:21, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • It works now. So weird. I guess I just need more patience. -- Aidje 13:22, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Do we know what the symbol is supposed to repersent? IF yes, such a reference should be included here 62.74.50.200 21:28, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
    • A "terrestrial" explanation would be that it represents a phoenix rising from the ashes of the fallen Galactic Republic. Surely there is an IU equivalent, but I do not know if it has ever been named. --SparqMan 20:18, 13 Oct 2005 (UTC)
      • Well, knowing how some Earthly animals have been called "Space (animal name)", we could always say it is a "Space Pheonix" or "(some planet name) Pheonix". Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:20, 13 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Hey, the "Remember Alderaan" poster is in our alphabet. Why not in Aurabesh? Just a thought. Θ 20:25, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)

  • Whoever made it obviously didn't care. Plus, someone from Earth made it, not someone in the Alliance. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:27, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)

I see. Where is the image from anyways? Θ 02:11, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC)

  • I've seen it on a fan site once, but I don't know whether it's fan art or not. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:23, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Its from a RPG sourcrbook... like the Empire Propaganda Poster and the CSA Propaganda Poster. Cant remember if it was the galactic campaign guide or the Hero's guide Razzy1319 03:09, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)

  • CSA? Don't you mean "CIS"? Admiral J. Nebulax 20:59, 2 Dec 2005 (UTC)
    • Corporate Sector Authority propaganda poster, so is the Empire Propaganda poster --Razzy1319 21:48, 25 Dec 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Padmé Amidala

While Padmé Amidala was an outspoken opponent to Palpatine, and a sympathetic ally to Mon Mothma and Bail Organa, I have not seen a source that indicates she was directly involved in the foundation of the formal Alliance that was created by Mon Mothma, Organa and Garm Bel Iblis with the Corellian Treaty. What sources say otherwise? --SparqMan 23:42, 17 Aug 2005 (UTC)

  • She was part of the Delegation of 2000 (which contained Organa and Mothma, but not Bel Iblis), which was the Alliance forerunner, but not the actual Alliance itself. Her databank entry on the OS site should explain this further. QuentinGeorge 05:55, 18 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Acturally, Garm Bel Iblis was part of the Delegation of 2000. -- SFH 21:21, 11 Oct 2005 (UTC)

  • What about the Deleted Scenes on the ROTS dvd? I thought those were pretty clear. GMo

[edit] Who Created It?

If it wasn't Bail and it wasn't Mon than who created The Alliance? Dylankidwell 01:23, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)

  • Well, really, Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, and Garm Bel Iblis were the founders of the Alliance. There were other Senators that also helped in the formation of the Rebel Alliance, but those three are the key founders. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 12:41, 17 Sep 2005 (UTC)
  • I read somewhere, that in theory, that Amidala was the de facto founder of the Alliance. But if the canonicity lies with the Corellian Treaty, I'm willing to go with that. Θ 20:29, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Well, that idea is completely wrong. Amidala wasn't even a member of the Alliance. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:55, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)
      • Regardless, she helped form it. Finis Valorum, was infact the man considered to be the de facto founder of the Republic.
        • No, she did not. She had nothing to do with the Rebel Allaince itself. Admiral J. Nebulax 13:23, 16 Dec 2005 (UTC)
      • How can Valorum be considered the founder of the Republic? He was alive a thousand or more years after the foundation, so by your argument, it still doesn't work...

[edit] Members?

I see a 'members' section on Alliance of Free Planets, but not here. Do we have any clear member planets/systems to add to such a section? Or at least planets with a Rebel presence/internal conflict. VT-16 15:33, 22 Dec 2005 (UTC)

  • I don't think a planet with a Rebel presence counts. Admiral J. Nebulax 19:43, 22 Dec 2005 (UTC)
  • Most planets that declared support for the Alliance (and even some that were simply suspected of doing so) usually got an Imperial Star Destroyer in orbit. Said ISD usually blasted the populace back to the stone age. Thus, only a few planets actually declared support openly. So it would be a relatively small number. -- SFH 19:51, 22 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Ralltiir, Gerrard V, Mon Calamari, Abridon, Averam, Alderaan, Virgillia, Togoria, etc. Many former CIS worlds joined the Alliance. Anyway, by the time of the Battle of Yavin, the Rebels could challene the Empire in open conflict -SWF

[edit] Alliance redirect

Alliance redirects here. Should we turn Alliance into a disambig page for the other Alliance's, such as the Galactic Alliance, the Alliance of Free Planets, and the Corporate Alliance? -- SFH 19:02, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)

  • I think so. Alliance is too broad a word to be limited to one article. --AdmThrawn 19:05, 11 Jan 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name?

Why insisting on naming it Alliance to Restore the Republic and not Rebel Alliance?
Almost everybody refers to it like that and it is also the name used in the databank. --UVnet 15:22, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Alliance to Restore the Republic is the offical name of the Rebel Alliance. Admiral J. Nebulax 21:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major Edit

I have been adding a great deal of information to this page, namely under the history and government sections. It is a shame that such an important article is so short and lacking in detail. Lets all try to pitch in and fix this article! :-) AdmiralNick22 18:03, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Also, why was it reverted when I changed it

Oh. I was still working on it, you did it pretty quickly -SWF

  • I can tell you right away, it screwed up just about everything. The text box, the article itself... Admiral J. Nebulax (talk) 13:05, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] size?

any good estimates or sources on the alliance's size at it's height before endor? any breakdown on numbers regarding infantry, crew, pilots, ect and the size and breakdown of the fleet?


[edit] Featured article

Who here thinks this is featured article material? Jacen Solo(Request Audience )

  • I disagree, I think it needs more content... it just seems like there's something missing...Sanzerai 18:26, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First Battle Won

In the opening scrawl of Ep. IV, it said that the Alliance just won its first major victory, what was it? —Unsigned comment by 70.232.32.221 (talk • contribs).

  • I think it meant that they had captured the Death Star plans, rather than winnig a specific battle. See timeline of the Galactic Civil War, especially Operation Skyhook. Chack Jadson 13:15, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Plympto

  • On the New Plympto page, it says the Empire controlled the planet. Yet, here it says the Alliance did. Which is it? Chack Jadson 13:15, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
    • I guess no one knows. Chack Jadson 20:34, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dantooine?

  • how do we know Dantooine was a real Rebel Base? GMo
  • "Our scout ships have reached Dantooine. They found the remains of a Rebel base, but they estimate that it has been deserted for some time." - Lord Hydronium 23:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion...

I think this article is somewhat sparse compared to, say, the Galactic Empire article. It only really says what happened to the Alliance in the films and little besides that. Unit 8311 12:49, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Loss of Hoth section

Somebody please clean it up. It talks about Lando joining before it mentions the loss of Han, and it fails to mention that Lando 'betrayed' Han. It also starts talking about "the fleet at Vergesso Astroids" abruptly thereafter. Everything up to this point in the article is good (I haven't read beyond this section yet), but this section needs revision and greater clarity, because if I didn't already know what they were talking about, I'd be pretty confused.129.107.81.12 16:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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