Talk:Alpha-3 Nimbus-class V-wing starfighter
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Move to "Alpha-3 Nimbus-class Starfighter"? --SparqMan 18:04, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Is it even possible to italicize article names?JimRaynor55 09:36, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
- No actually it isn't. MarcK 09:37, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
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Alpha-3 Nimbus-class V-wing starfighter
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Permission to move this to the name above? The official site uses it in the profile (minus the -class) and would help make th V-wing term part of the official designation. :) VT-16 16:30, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. This should have been done months ago. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 20:34, 20 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- If there's no objections, I'll do it now. VT-16 16:16, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you. I had originally changed the name in the article yesterday as well. Admiral J. Nebulax 17:17, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- If there's no objections, I'll do it now. VT-16 16:16, 26 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Wingtip lasers?
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Where? In the picture, I see what look like they might be barrels on the fuselage, just to the side of the cockpit, but I can't make out anything on the wingtips. Red XIV 07:50, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'll look in the RotS Incredible Cross-Sections for anything on them later. Admiral J. Nebulax (talk)
11:34, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
atmosphere max speed
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- V-wing got 52000 km/h atmosphere max speed!!?? Even a TIE/I got only 1250! Darth Kevinmhk 15:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, maybe the Empire decided that really fast fighters were no longer needed... I don't know. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
19:29, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- After the shock I got from V-wing, I checked the data last night: Rebellion/New Republic/NJO Eras starfighters' max atmosphere speed were all below 2000 km/h (With TIE Defender being the fastest: 1680 km/h). It should be noted that real life F-16 & F-22 are 2100 & 2570 km/h ! On the other hand, Rise of the Empire Era's starfighters Delta-7, Eta-2, ARC-170 & V-wing are 12000, 15000, 44000, 52000 respectively. I bet someone forgot to check the average speed of OT era when designing PT crafts! Darth Kevinmhk 03:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- Probably. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
11:23, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- Nope. Everything related to the capabilities of OT-era craft are heavily steeped in game mechanics (notably WEG). There's been plenty of examples of starfighters going too fast to simply be just above the speed of sound. They have no problems flying rapidly to and from a nearby planetary object, so this "atmospheric limit" is pure nonsense. I'm glad they fixed some of this with the PT-era craft. Since at least one of the guys maintaining the official databank on SW.com is a former WEG-employee, it's no wonder the OT fighters have their ridiculously low speeds present in their profiles, while the PT fighters' are "mysteriously" absent... ;) VT-16 23:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, then. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
00:02, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- There's also the matter of Padme's H-type Nubian yacht being able to pull 8,000 km/h in atmosphere. I understand that an unarmed ship needs speed as a defense, but a civilian yacht that can fly 4 to 8 times as fast as a high-performance interceptor starfighter stretches credibility a wee bit. Jwebb13
01:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, some things are a bit off. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
01:24, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, some things are a bit off. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- There's also the matter of Padme's H-type Nubian yacht being able to pull 8,000 km/h in atmosphere. I understand that an unarmed ship needs speed as a defense, but a civilian yacht that can fly 4 to 8 times as fast as a high-performance interceptor starfighter stretches credibility a wee bit. Jwebb13
- Okay, then. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- Probably. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- After the shock I got from V-wing, I checked the data last night: Rebellion/New Republic/NJO Eras starfighters' max atmosphere speed were all below 2000 km/h (With TIE Defender being the fastest: 1680 km/h). It should be noted that real life F-16 & F-22 are 2100 & 2570 km/h ! On the other hand, Rise of the Empire Era's starfighters Delta-7, Eta-2, ARC-170 & V-wing are 12000, 15000, 44000, 52000 respectively. I bet someone forgot to check the average speed of OT era when designing PT crafts! Darth Kevinmhk 03:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, maybe the Empire decided that really fast fighters were no longer needed... I don't know. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
Alpha-3 Nimbus-class V-wing starfighter
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The V-wing looks more like a predecessor of the A-Wing than the TIE fighter - the only connection I could see between those two were their engines howls. Does anyone agree with this?
- Well, it is a predecessor of the TIE. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
18:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
- Funny I was going to say something about this. I definitely think it's more of an A-wing than a TIE. The TIE resembles the Jedi starfighter more, and even that I think is a bit of a stretch - lalala_la
- Well, it's really both, I suppose. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
00:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well, it's really both, I suppose. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- Funny I was going to say something about this. I definitely think it's more of an A-wing than a TIE. The TIE resembles the Jedi starfighter more, and even that I think is a bit of a stretch - lalala_la
Regarding use of V-Wing in BFII
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In BFII, the V-Wing is obviously a bomber. Does anyone know if the Old Rebublic had an actual dedicated bomber, or did they just use Arc-170s? Just wondering. Grand Moff Rhell 23:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- They had two: The PTB-625 planetary bomber and the NTB-630 naval bomber. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
00:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks.Grand Moff Rhell 23:41, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- You're welcome. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
01:25, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- Regarding my revision, the ARC-170 is in fact not a bomber, it is a long range, heavily armed starfighter. --Darth Windu 14:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Uh, one of the ARC-170's roles is bomber. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
12:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- Perhaps, but it's still not a bomber, it simply has a capacity to operate in a bomber function, which obviously the V-wing lacks. --Darth Windu 02:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- Having a capacity to operate as a bomber = bomber. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
12:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't, just like having the ability to eat a banana doesn't make you a monkey. Otherwise you could class the ARC-170 as everything from a bomber to a pizza delivery vehicle. --Darth Windu 05:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Now you're just acting stupid. Give it a rest: The ARC-170 is canonically also a bomber. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
12:07, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Think of it another way; the TIE Bomber is obviously a bomber first and foremost, but it can also act as a space superiority starfighter as it's armed with laser cannons. The V-wing and ARC-170 are primarily starfighters, but are capable of carrying bombs; thus they can be employed as bombers if and when required - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 12:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, the V-wing is the one in question. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
12:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- No Jack, I was simply pointing out how ridiculous your previous statement was. Kwenn, okay the TIE Bomber can act as a fighter, but that doesn't mean we call it a fighter. Why? Because it's not a fighter, it's a bomber. Same with the ARC-170, it is a heavy multi-role fighter, not a bomber, there is a difference. In regards to the V-wing, can it carry bombs? As far as I'm aware, canon sources state it only has the laser cannons. --Darth Windu 03:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- <sigh> The ARC-170's main role was fighter, yet another role was bomber. The TIE Bomber's main role was bomber, another role was fighter. What's so hard to understand about that? —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
14:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- <sigh> The ARC-170's main role was fighter, yet another role was bomber. The TIE Bomber's main role was bomber, another role was fighter. What's so hard to understand about that? —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- No Jack, I was simply pointing out how ridiculous your previous statement was. Kwenn, okay the TIE Bomber can act as a fighter, but that doesn't mean we call it a fighter. Why? Because it's not a fighter, it's a bomber. Same with the ARC-170, it is a heavy multi-role fighter, not a bomber, there is a difference. In regards to the V-wing, can it carry bombs? As far as I'm aware, canon sources state it only has the laser cannons. --Darth Windu 03:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- There is a reason the V-wing was represented as a bomber in SWBFII, Game Mechanics; In Star Wars: Battlefront 2 there are supposed to be four ship types for each side in space battles, dedicated fighter, dedicated bomber, landing craft, and multi-purpose fighters that can be used as bombers or fighters effectively, when it comes to republic fighters there is a landing craft (the LAAT/i), a dedicated fighter (Eta-2), a multi-purpose fighter (ARC-170), but no movie-represented dedicated bomber, and the V-wing was as well known as the other fighters so it had to be included, therefore it was represented in the game as a bomber, since that was the unfilled role.Nebulon B freak 22:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, the V-wing is the one in question. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- Think of it another way; the TIE Bomber is obviously a bomber first and foremost, but it can also act as a space superiority starfighter as it's armed with laser cannons. The V-wing and ARC-170 are primarily starfighters, but are capable of carrying bombs; thus they can be employed as bombers if and when required - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 12:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Now you're just acting stupid. Give it a rest: The ARC-170 is canonically also a bomber. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- No, it doesn't, just like having the ability to eat a banana doesn't make you a monkey. Otherwise you could class the ARC-170 as everything from a bomber to a pizza delivery vehicle. --Darth Windu 05:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Having a capacity to operate as a bomber = bomber. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- Perhaps, but it's still not a bomber, it simply has a capacity to operate in a bomber function, which obviously the V-wing lacks. --Darth Windu 02:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- Uh, one of the ARC-170's roles is bomber. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- Regarding my revision, the ARC-170 is in fact not a bomber, it is a long range, heavily armed starfighter. --Darth Windu 14:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Y-Wings Bombers were used as bombers by the Republic. We now know this since they feature in the Clone Wars series..but none of the prequal movies. Ghostmaker 06:30, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
Wing folds
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Do both wings fold forwards and close like scissors, or does the whole wing assembly rotate forwards 90 degrees? 81.86.76.6 14:16, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- That's a good question. Perhaps both. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
19:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- In SWBFII the wings folded like scissors when it landed (if I remember correctly, haven't played in a few months), and I don't know of any source that contradicts this, though just about any non-game source would beat out Star Wars Battlefront II in a canonicity contest.Nebulon B freak 22:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- In Ep III, when Palpatine's shuttle lands at the medical center, one of the V-wings landed behind the ship and the whole wing assembly rotated and it rested on the front tips of the wings.Manuccij 17:37, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Hyperdrive
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ROTS incredible cross-sections says that the V-wing has no hyperdrive if I'm not mistaken. Gustafar 10:33, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- If you're referring to the mention of one in the infobox, you might want to read it again. V-wings used an external hyperdrive docking ring, which gave the craft a Class 1 hyperdrive. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
14:18, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- There were also some elite fighters used as Palpatine's guards that had hyperdrives built in. VT-16 11:02, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- The V-wings in the one Episode III trailer, right? —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
12:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, and I assume they're also the ones following the shuttle to the hospital tower on Coruscant. VT-16 13:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- Probably. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
18:37, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- Didn't have the book at hand. sorry. Gustafar 15:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Probably. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
- Yeah, and I assume they're also the ones following the shuttle to the hospital tower on Coruscant. VT-16 13:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- The V-wings in the one Episode III trailer, right? —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
Characteristics
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"The clone troopers who flew the fighter had specially adapted helmets. These helmets were fully sealed due to the lack of a life support system."
This doesn't make any sense. (and what is the source?) You need a fully sealed and pressurized suit with an air source, not just a helmet, to survive a vacuum (ie TIE pilots). If the cockpit is pressurized then there has to be air of some quality in it, and therefore would be no need for specialized sealed helmets or suits. I could guess how they work, but it doesn't matter unless it is stated in a canon source.--Round Robin 05:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
- The source is Revenge of the Sith: Incredible Cross-Sections, though I admit the wording is confusing. I'll clarify it. Grand Moff Tranner
(Comlink) 13:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
The Alliance used this fighter?
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Over on the Alliance Starfighter Corps article, this craft is listed. However, on the article for the fighter itself, the Alliance isn't listed as an organization that used it, nor is it mentioned at any time in the article that the Alliance used it. I'd like to remove it from the list, but I want opinions first. —Unsigned comment by 68.2.168.153 (talk • contribs).
- I'm not seeing it mentioned in the Alliance Starfighter Corps article. You might be getting it mixed up with the V-wing airspeeder, an entirely different ship. -- I need a name (Complain here) 12:28, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
Flak gun
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May I ask what is the source of flak guns equipped by the V-wings?--Julian.lee.38 13:10, February 6, 2012 (UTC)