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InfoboxEdit

Well, the pic in the infobox is a joke, right? LelalMekha 11:43, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

  • No, actually. Since that's the only depiction of the craft we've seen from official sources so far, it's basically all we can use. Thefourdotelipsis 11:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Well, silly me, I should have guessed it. But is toy status absolutely canon? I mean is it necessary to put it in the infobox in lieu of a behind the scene section? LelalMekha 20:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
      • As Fourdot said, this is the only image that we have of this starfighter, which is why it's in the infobox. And it was released in LEGO's "the Clone Wars" line, meaning that the model was made from something straight out of the film/TV series, which is a canonical source. But of course, the image will most likely be replaced when an actual image from the movie/series is released. NighthawkLeader 22:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
        • Correct. Right now, we're using what we've got ;) JorrelWiki-shrinkable.pngFraajic 03:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
        • I saw a commercial today; it had what looked like this starfighter but had a red color scheme and a red astro droid. Does that mean that its not a customized fighter? or what? Dr.Kermit 03:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
          • At this point, anything is possible. We'll have to wait a little while longer before we can be sure, I suppose -Kev-La Ttolya 09:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
            • The Clone Wars site on StarWars.com includes an image of a Jedi starfighter that is identical in design to this fighter. Seeing as Anakin's customized fighter isn't the only one, maybe we should make a "Delta-8 starfighter" article and slap a conjecture tag on it. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 11:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
              • I think inventing the name "Delta-8 starfighter" on the back of such images alone is probably unwise and could lead to confusion later. However, I wouldn't be surprised if you're right and these ships do end up being called Delta-8s. -Kev-La Ttolya 12:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
                • So I changed the picture from the lego set to the new Hasbro Titanium version, mostly because it is more 'realistic' rather than the bricky-lego pic. --Darth Snuggles 10:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
                  • The ship actually appears in the opening narration of the movie. You see a brief space battle clip, and this fighter is in it. ZeldaTheSwordsman 00:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
                    • Downfall of a Droid part 1 aired last night, and somebody was probably watching with a camera, so we should expect an actual screenshot soon. Yay! 76.171.55.249 14:42, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Major SpoilerEdit

Does this really qualify as a major spoiler? We're talking about what ship anakin will fly in the new series. I think a minor spoiler tag would be far more appropriate. --KerianAmbrai 13:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

  • I don't actually think we have a minor spoiler template. I guess until we get one, it'll have to stay as a major spoiler. JorrelWiki-shrinkable.pngFraajic 16:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't see it in the Clone Wars movie. It is really there? Mauser 10:09, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

  • I suspect that this fighter will be appearing in the TV series. Anakin's Delta-7B is red and white like Obi-Wan's, and it is destroyed during the Battle of Teth. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 11:43, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
    • I'll remove it then. Mauser 14:02, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Well, this fighter is glimpsed briefly during the intro narration, like I stated above. ZeldaTheSwordsman 20:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Unknown reasons?Edit

  • I disagree that Anakin stopped using the fighter for "unknown reasons". Eta-2s were probably better than Delta-7s, so he probably switched fighters when one became available --80.42.72.114 21:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Time frameEdit

  • If this was his second customized Delta-7, followed by the Azure Angel II introduced in Jedi Trial, I have been forced to wonder how Anakin could have been given a Padawan (Ahsoka Tano) while he was still a Padawan himself. He was not made a Knight until after Jedi Trial. -Kev-La Ttolya 07:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
    • It's just them messing everything up to make so their story works. - Kingpin13Cantina Battle Ground 07:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
      • Yeah, OK. Thanks for that! -Kev-La Ttolya 08:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Anyway, to continue on a more useful note, the following are the only two theories I can come up with without saying that one canonical source simply trumps the other: (1) The Clone Wars is set after Jedi Trial, but Anakin began using this earlier starfighter once more after a brief period using Azure Angel II; (2) The Clone Wars is set after Jedi Trial, and this article is currently incorrect in that this starfighter is his third customized Delta-7, not his second (which was Azure Angel II). -Kev-La Ttolya 08:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
      • I'm pretty sure that The Clone Wars isn't just confined to one year. If it was, there'd be some major conflicts, and I hope that's not the case. Grand Moff Tranner Imperial Department of Military Research.svg (Comlink) 12:31, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
        • Thanks, Grand Moff. Yeah, I think you're probably right. Still, any bit with Ahsoka as Anakin's Padawan has to be set after Jedi Trial, so if we see him flying this fighter in the same bit, we'll know it's (at least) the third customized Delta-7 he has piloted. Either that, or we'll know Lucasfilm has decided not to worry about conflicts with sources of slightly lower canonical status. The latter, I agree, would be extremely disappointing. -Kev-La Ttolya 08:00, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Upon examination of material released in conjunction with the upcoming movie, I have discovered that Anakin seems to be bearing his facial scar throughout the film. This would mean that, according to existing canon, the film must be set not only after Jedi Trial and Clone Wars Chapter 21 (in which he is Knighted and thus becomes eligible for his own Padawan), but also after The Dreadnaughts of Rendili (in which Asajj Ventress gives him his scar). When I originally assumed this starfighter to be Anakin's third customized Delta-7 and made relevant edits to this effect, I found that these were soon changed to make it his second (followed by, rather than preceded by, Azure Angel II) and so decided to assume I must be wrong. However, I am now thinking that perhaps I was right all along. Of course, we'll probably all know for sure very soon, but I felt I should share my thoughts anyway. -Kev-La Ttolya 01:04, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Oh, god. Serious time frame screw up here: Battle of Christophsis was set in 22BBY during which Delta-7B was used. Jedi Trials was set in 20BBY during which Anakin was knighted. While this does solve your starfighter timeline issue (Delta-7B comes before Azure Angel II), there is the problem of Anakin getting a padawan during the 22BBY battle before he himself gets knighted in 20BBY! Clearly, at least one of the years must be wrong here. However, we can still safely assume that, whatever year the battle is going to be retconned to occur in (if it's going to be retconned at all), Anakin's yellow Delta-7B was still used in 22BBY. It was his second starfighter, and his first Delta-7B. Check his starfighter timeline. Edit: I've just read Mauser's comment on Talk:Star Wars: The Clone Wars (novel) about the conflicting timeline. --Secretss 17:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Two ships Edit

Now that we know that Anakin had at least two nearly identical starfighters, what's going to happen with this article? Should we split it or simply delete it, since we can't have an article about every ship that hadn't been identified by a unique name. Mauser 20:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

  • TWO ships? I think the logical presumption is that the Delta-7B wrecked during the battle was recovered and repaired(seeing as the wreck was nearly intact). Correct me if something else has stated otherwise. ZeldaTheSwordsman 18:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
    • I belived it was unlikely the ship was recovered. We haven't seen twilight doing this and there wasn't any time to repair it since Anakin went to his next misson right after he returned from Both system. What does the Visual Guide say? Mauser 19:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

As of Nightsisters, due to the outfit change, Anakin is now on his third identical yellow Delta-7B.--72.215.154.27 21:29, January 10, 2011 (UTC) Actually, make that fourth: He lost one to the Zillo Beast, one on Vanqor, and one in 'Hero of the Confederacy'. Anakin is now almost as bad as his son when it comes to keeping his ships in one piece. --72.215.154.27 20:01, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Factory model? Edit

In "The Clone Wars" movie you see R2-D2 in a Delta-7B model just like Obi-Wan's in the Teth Monastery. Should that be mentioned in this article??? Unsigned comment by Butters4115 (talk • contribs).

  • Sign your posts. You also need to rephrase your question to clarify what you are talking about. If you are saying that Anakin flew a Delta-7B during the events of the film, that is established in the article already. Gethralkin 03:26, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

No. in the Teth monastery right after they get Rotta you see R2-D2 in a Red Delta-7B just like Obi-Wans. then the droids come and destroy it.--Butters4115 03:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Death Trap/Timeline Edit

How can Anakin's ship be in death trap after it was crushed beyond repair by the zillo beast? What I think is that Death Trap takes place before The Battle Of Malastare, unless he built an identical ship, which is unlikely. BionicleMaster 00:15, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

  • We don't know the exact timeline of TCW episodes, and this page is not for speculation on that subject. CC7567 (talk) 00:36, April 22, 2010 (UTC)
    • He's right though, Anakin's one ship couldn't have been destroyed twice —Lalala la 08:11, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
      • I say he got a replacement or two after getting it blown up (again); though without any canonical confirmation, there isn't much we can do on that number. Luke Danger 11:36, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • also, if death trap was before the battle of malastare, he still would have to have gotten a replacement fighter because R2 launched it at the jedi cruiser to get rid of a gundark, so he still would have to get a replacement, so your theory is blown out of the water bioniclemaster Ralphjedimaster 22:27, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

missiles? Edit

what's the source for his fighter having missiles. it has never beeen seen to fire any, so what's the source? and i saw the link to that lego set, but i don't think just because the lego set says it has missiles means it does, as it has never been seen using them. Ralphjedimaster 00:49, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Destruction? Edit

The article clearly states that the Zillo Beast ate the Delta-7B on Malastare, so how could Anakin have used it again to go to Vanqor? This makes no sense, so either the mission on Vanqor is set chronologically before the Malastare battle, or Anakin uses a duplicate of his Delta-7B at Vanqor. Either way, this needs to be addressed! MillieMuddFan67 21:13, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I would like to know when the hell the fighter was actually destroyed. It seems like the TV series showed it being destroyed twice...once on Malastare with the Zillo Beast, and the second time by R2. Could there be more than one fighter? --Promus Kaa(Rebel Merchant) Redstarbird.svg 13:53, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
  • In all likeliness, Anakin either salvaged the fighter whenever it was destroyed, or had a new one delivered when one was destroyed (or a combination thereof). Regardless, any such fighter would constitute "Anakin Skywalker's Delta-7B Aethersprite-class light interceptor", and so belongs in the article, even if we're talking about several individual units. Taral, Dark Lord of the Sith -Just shy, not antisocial: You can talk to me!- 17:39, July 5, 2011 (UTC)
    • If there were more than one of this type of ship that Anakin used (which is obvious from the destruction of more than one), then that should be noted in the article. However, Anakin had several individual ships that were notably distinct and thus have required separate articles. GethralkinHyperwave 13:56, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

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