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[edit] Feature article?

i have no idea how to do it properly by i recommend this article for feature article status. this is the best written article in the whole of wookieepedia particularly the section on how why anakin help save luke. jackchen123


Hello there, You might be looking for Wookieepedia:Featured_article, Please read the instructions on how to nominate, you can also sign your name by placing four tildes. May The Force Be With You! Fatguy2006 01:42, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

    • I second the nomination for Anakin to be nominated for featured article status. I think at long last after all the hard work everyone has put into it, Anakin is finally ready. Anyone else agree/disagree? Impassioned Jedi 21:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • N it ain't Mr. Jedi!!

Some-sort-of-jedi Anakin Thomas 07:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

    • Its been over a month since this was nominated, and little progress has been made in support of Anakin being a Featured Article. Since I nominated him this time, I would like to withdraw his nomination. (Plus there are as much objections as people support it, ouch!) - Impassioned Jedi 19:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
    • You have a good point, that was a little bit of defeatism kicking in. I nominated it, so I should stay the course and contribute any way I can to improve the Anakin article. Thanks for giving me that needed kick in the rear end. lol Impassioned Jedi 22:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talents?

it needs a talents section, agreed? Jedi Dude 21:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


i also put powers and potential section with quotes from novels... Jibers

Heyyy...someone removed my quotes from the section i created ,,,why...and what do u mean by quote template...how do i use it? i want the qoutes put up back there..... Jibers

guys i thought he was form 5 all the time but the article said he used form 4, in every book and insider i've read it said anakin practiced form 5 in episode 2 and 3. could sombody please clarify this.

Technobabble1

  • i always thought the visual diccionary was mistaken pinning form 4 on anakin. that was the first source with the 7 forms i think and every source afterwards says anakin has been a form 5 practioner because of its power--Black Jack Scarron 00:06, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Spirit's Age

In ROTJ, when Anakin is a Spirit, is that the 22 yr old Anakin, or is that what Anakin would had looked like at the age of 45? Double D 13:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

It is, O.K., but he looks like he's a gerneration old when he's a spirit. Plus I thought in the old version, since he's 45, i figure that was the age of the new version. Double D 12:55, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, so does that mean he's 45 even those it's the 1 from ROTS, or is he still 22? It's just that Obi-Wan's spirit appears as 57 (or 61, on the fact that he's 4 yrs older than we he died), and Yoda appears 900. So how can Anakin be 22, when he's lived 23 yrs longer than that? Double D 01:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, I thing a understand it now. That examples why even those he's in his 22 yrs old appearence, he seems to look as mature as a 45 yr old man. Double D 01:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Power and Force potential image

I was wondering what picture would look good in the "Power and Force potential" section. There seems to be some minor disagreement. I think the current one is okay, but I don't like it. However, I want to avoid an editing war. I did find some images that I think would be suitable to nominate. Of course, we can always keep it as is. Impassioned Jedi 06:29, 30th July 2006 (UTC)

Anakin promo2.jpg
AnakinDetermined.jpg
Anakin Determined.jpg

change the picture...its rubbish...hey admiral...how do u like the power and force potential section i wrote up? do i get any awards for doing these things...i also did the chosen 1 article in the vader page and the lightsaber training write up...i will do another 1 in 2 days...by the way i dont know how 2 use the templates like u said...all ur names are in blue in these discussions ...how do i do that..my name does not appear on what i write and i have to put it up...help...(i have 2 do waht i just said now)...jibers

  • The picture is fine, and it's going to stay. And the section is fine now. No, you don't get any awards. And I really can't explain how to use those templates here. And if you want to sign your name, put ~ ~ ~ ~ at the end of your posts, without the spaces. And these talk pages are not the place to ask questions like those. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 12:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

what do u mean i cant ask quesions like that? Jibers 23:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anakin's Hand

Anakin appears, as said, in his pre-fall form on Endor as a force ghost. However, can it be seen in this shot if he's wearing his glove? This would signify how prostetics carry over when someone becomes one with the force.

  • If it is, it shouldn't, I don't think so anyway...Anakin..can we officially say that Anakin went over to the dark side when his mom died? He had both arms there, thats just what I think..Some-sort-of-jedi Anakin Thomas 07:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Anakin didn't fall to the dark side until 19 BBY. But I don't think his prostetics carried over. Plus, don't forget that his limbs also "died"—shouldn't they have Force ghosts that reconnect to Anakin's Force ghost? ;) Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 13:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
      • I don't think we can see enough of his hands to determine. Another interesting question is whether his scar is visible. I can't tell in the images here. Powers 16:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
        • It probably isn't. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 19:10, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
          • GL has stated that the representation of Anakin at the end of ROTJ is how Anakin looked just before he fell to the darkside. And since he had lost his arm before then we would see him with a prosphetic arm in his Force Ghost apparition. Jasca Ducato 09:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
            • or just one arm...ghosts might not be able to show the cubernetic parts Jedi Dude 09:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Right Eye Scar?

I personally haven't been able to see it, but after Vader is unmasked, and we see Sebastian Shaw revealed, does he have the scar that was prominent in RotS?

They did a lot of editing to him for the DVD (erasing eyebrows and such) but could they have forgotten to ADD his scar, or is it just hidden by the shadows?

Or is there something I haven't read where he uses bacta on it (or something of similar affect)? Or does it imply that Asajj Ventress really didn't slash him as well as she thought? Void In Paradise 06:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

  • At the time the Episode VI DVD was made, I don't think anyone was aware of the scar on his eye (I believe the Force ghost doesn't have it either). Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 11:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too many images?

Okay, I don't know about anyone else, but the article as of now has too many images. This is causing many images to appear almost side-by-side. Therefore, I'm suggesting that we come up with a list of pictures to be removed. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 22:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

  • It has a lot of images, but I don't see anything that seems side by side. I do think we should set limits about any more being added, however. - Angel Blue 451 23:21, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
    • You probably have a different screen resolution than me. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 00:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
      • There are a lot of images yes, but I think they all chronically detail all the essential moments in Anakin's life. I personally don't think anymore images should be added though. It has just the right amount to appear in-depth, but not cluttered. Plus think about it, Anakin is Star Wars' central character. It just seems fitting his article would include the most in depth information, pictures, etc. about such a character. But I am just one man here, what say everyone else? Impassioned Jedi 01:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Too many images...definitely. I picked these out to be yanked. Though other images also need to be rearranged no matter what. --RedemptionTalk 01:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Overlooking the Camp.jpg
News ep3 vader5.jpg

  • I think I found a good compromise, I do vouch with Redemption's suggestion to cut some of the images. I don't mind cutting the first three. But the last I object to. Its symbolic as its Anakin's funeral. Its the end of his story, and the six Star Wars films is Anakin's story. Its a symbolic end to a character's journey, please keep it!

EDIT: I went ahead and deleted those three images, and reearanged some pics. How does the new layout look? Impassioned Jedi 01:35 16 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Still too many pictures, IMO. Also, Impassioned Jedi, please keep the images sizes where I have them now. If they get any bigger, I start seeing some side-by-side. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 12:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
    • All right, well lets work with it some more. What screen resolution do you have Jack? I'm running on 1024 X 768. You? I am comfortable on ripping two more images. What about these two? About the image sizes, I'll let you handle that side of things. Impassioned Jedi 21:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Anakin.JPG
A22on.jpg
  • I'm fine with the removal of those two images. Also, my screen resolution is 1152 x 864. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 22:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
    • All right, I went ahead and ripped the two images, I think the article looks much more streamlined now. What say you?

EDIT: After tough deliberation, I decided to rip one more image from the article, it was the image of Vader marching on the Jedi Temple. How does the new image layout look? - Impassioned Jedi 05:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Main image

Would this be a great Main Image? --Jabbathehuttgartogg 00:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:ASW.jpg

[edit] Anakin should have lost to the powers of Count Dooku

How could Anakin possibly beat Dooku, a man who does not spas out, cry, of piss himself like Anakin. Not to mention he has a higher command of the force and is one of the best people ever trained in both lightsaber skill and force mastery, according to Yoda (just so you know Im not basing this on opinion). But obviously also, if Dooku could easily overwhelm Obi-Wan, but not Anakin, than how come Obi-Wan deafeats Anakin when he was bested by Dooku and Anakin was not?

  • Because sometimes things just don't work out the way we expect them to. But, unfortunately, this is not the proper forum for these types of discussions. - Angel Blue 451(Holonet) 00:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • How is this wasting space? its a disussion? Its an interesting topic too unlike the rest of these discussions.
  • Anyway, despite how you guys wrongly view this discussion, Dooku would have owned Anakin if it were not for the terrible ideas in episode three made by george lucus, if it were real Anakin would have died easily.
    • Keep your opinions off of talk pages. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 00:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Its not an opinion, it is true and where can you talk on this site, what is the discussion page used for, Nebulax, are you even human, you block me from everything, you have no fun, why dont you talk instead of being a damn robot,

error...I am Nebulax...cyborg...no opinions allowed, human...no...that does not compute...error..I have to pull this stick out my ass...over...GET A LIFE NEBULAX, DAMN

  • If you want to express your opinions, find a forum to bug. Wookieepedia is not a forum. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 11:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • HAHAHA, "Pull the stick out your ass" thats a great one, you should take his advice Nebulax, it would do you good.
    • Shut up, anon. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 19:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Is it me or do several of these anons sound like the the same guy?--Darth OblivionComlink 19:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
        • Most likely the same. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 19:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
          • Just to end this the reason why Anakin won is because when Dooku harmed Obi Wan, he realesed his anger and became more powerful than Dooku. That's why he won. You should read the novel before asking stupid questions. Obi Wan only won because Anakin was flawed and not as wise, thus he jumped when Obi had the high ground.-Anakin Skywalker 1 13:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slave to Gardulla

How much information is there on Anakin's life as Gardulla's slave. I can't find anything on it here at my desk. If there is anything on his Gardulla the Hutt slave life I'd like to know where. -- Jabbathehuttgartogg(Rancor pit) 00:21, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I'm not sure it's really covered anywhere, other than the brief mention in Phantom Menace. I could be wrong though. - Angel Blue 451(Holonet) 00:32, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Ok, so how is what I wrote a "waste of space" and this pointless crap not a waste of space? I mean come on, why do you care? really get a life dude.
    • This is far more important. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 00:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I mean, really, I lose sleep over this kind of stuff man, I really want to know about Gardulla and slave boy wooo ITS SOOOO INTERESTING! (SARCASM) This would only be interesting to homos with sticks up thier ass like Nebulax and idiotic Anakin fans!
  • Im sure if he was the one without a life, he would make a gay character up like Nebulax, man your all fags, Anon seems to be the best one here.
    • I'm sure if he didn't have a life he'd go on a Star Wars wiki and complain about how Anakin whined too much and should've been beaten by Dooku. Oh, wait... -- I need a name 18:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Can we get back on topic? Unless of curse if noone has any canon info. on Annie's Gardulla life. -- Jabbathehuttgartogg(Rancor pit) 18:45, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • There's some mention of Anakin's enslavement to Gardulla the Hutt in The New Essential Guide to Characters, which I believe is taken from the Episode I Adventures books.

[edit] Too many quotes?

  • As per the improvement drive nomination, some people have been talking that the Anakin Skywalker article has way too many quotes and needs to be cleaned up. I would have to agree with this statement. - Impassioned Jedi 22:31 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chosen one

So is he the chosen one? At first I didnt doubt it but now that Jacen is a sith... well with Anakin being dead how can he destroy the sith? Just asking.-Anakin Skywalker 1 01:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I thought so. Thanks Solo.-Anakin Skywalker 1 01:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
  • You're welcome. - Jaina Solo(Goddess Stuff) 11:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
    • You had me confused there for a second, Jaina... I was thinking, why did she say that to me? But I get it now. ;) Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 21:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
      • Being dead never stopped anyone in Star Wars, did it? But I see your point, the re-emergence of the Sith detracts from the films. But Palpatine came back ages ago, so I suppose it was already done. But it doesn't really bother me, because the Sith never got close to destroying the Jedi after Anakin destroyed Palpatine. Except for this moronic Legacy series... .... 02:53, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah.I havent read to many so now I know for sure that Plpatine came back. Guess I gotta read more.-Anakin Skywalker 1 13:29, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Im go to the bookstore in a week.-Anakin Skywalker 1 13:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A theory on Anakin's conception

I had a thought recently. I don't know if you remember this quote from Revenge of the Sith:

"Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so wise that he could use the Force to influence the Midi-chlorians to create life."
―Supreme Chancellor Palpatine/Darth Sidious to Anakin Skywalker

It occurred to me that this could have been how Anakin was conceived. If this theory is correct, then Anakin's father was Darth Plagueis. --StarSword 9:33 24 Oct. 2006

Quick question. How is it possible for Palpatine to be one of the candidates for Anakin's 'father'? We know he's incapable of manipulating the midi-chlorians to create life from Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader. Sure, if Lucas comes out and says "Sidious was the one who made Anakin", fair enough, but he hasn't.(Ulicus 16:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC))

  • Wait, how is it stated in Dark Lord? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 22:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Precisely as above. Sidious states outright he can't manipulate the midis to create life - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 22:15, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Or he is just trying to deceive someone? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 22:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
        • No, the chapter is presented from his POV, looking into his thoughts. He muses that, had Anakin died on Mustafar, he "would have had to discover a way to compel midi-chlorians to do his bidding, and bring into being one as powerful as Anakin" (p133 hardback). He hasn't previously discovered the secret - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 22:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hero Cycle

Recently I added a piece in the 'Behind the Scenes' section regarding Anakin's matching of the 'standard hero,' something I found very interesting. I worked hard on this, but I cannot figure out a way to tidy up the list. Could someone help me please? Thank you very much. -67.34.186.30 02:36, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

  • UPDATE- I also recently added a similar Hero Cycle list on Luke Skywalker's page. -67.34.186.30 19:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Isn't the Hero's Journey the more well-known version of this? "The Call to Adventure" the Crossing of the Thresholds etc? - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 19:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Really? I've never heard of that. If I would have I might have done that instead. -67.34.186.30 21:11, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Hero's Journey from Hero With a Thousand Faces. It's commonly held that this is the structure used by Lucas (and many others). That page even gives examples from Star Wars - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 21:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
          • Huh, I've never heard of that before. Do you suggest I convert both lists to the Hero's Journey? Also, I would like advice as to whether to do similar lists on other major hero's and heroine's pages (ex. Solo family). If so, I'd need help from someone who knows a lot about said characters, that way I wouldn't have to search through a biography for every step. -67.34.186.30 03:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
            • The Hero's Journey doesn't quite fit with Anakin's story due to his fall to the dark side, though the framework still loosely works. It's more appropriate for Luke, though - \\Captain Kwenn// — Ahoy! 22:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
              • True. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 22:40, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
                • (NOTE: I am 67.34.186.30, I registered) Whew, that's good, that saves me some work. So, a Hero's Journey for Luke? With a side order of fries? Or no? -Solus 19:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
                  • Just no mustard. ;) Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 21:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
                    • Okie-dokey. I'll get to work on it. And don't worry, I try to keep away from Darth Mustard as much as I can. -Solus 23:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
                      • The Hero's Journey is up, I kept the Hero Cycle there as well and compared the two, since they are both interesting, as well as there is a matching Hero Cycle on Anakin's page and it might look awkward if Anakin had one and not Luke. The link is found here, you can scroll down to get to the Hero's Journey. Will this suffice? -Solus 00:33, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler warning

I Think a spoiler warning should be added as in this article it does say how jacen solo turns sith and that needs a spoiler warning but i dont no how to put one up 69.26.85.244 02:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Done. Glad you mentioned it; it is important, and I'm surprised that no one else noticed it. Good work. .... 03:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Temp page for merge

Here it is! Anakin Skywalker/temp. Plot Summary's already merged, it's just the little tidbits at the end. .... 21:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

  • May I do some editing on it to try and better it? I know it's just a temp, but if it's going to be merged, I'd want a good representation of what it's going to look like. -Solus 23:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Go ahead! That's what it's there for :) .... 23:39, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Thank you -Solus 23:42, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
        • I think I'm done for now... I think I'm going to die... ;) -Solus 01:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
          • Quickly, man, take a nap! .... 01:55, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Well...there's the article. Do we go for it or not? .... 01:56, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
    • There is one problem, however. In the 'Personality' section, there is no description of Anakin in it. I put a note there informing this. At the moment I am too brain-dead (i.e. lazy) to do anything about it right now... brrraaaaiiinnssss... -Solus 02:15, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Eh. Just put "looked like Hayden Christensen". .... 02:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
        • ??? I don't think I made myself clear. In the navigation bar at the beginning of the article, there is a link near the bottom that says 'Personality.' If you click it and go to that section, it says that there needs to be a paragraph or two describing Anakin's personality. I'm sorry I confused you. -Solus 03:13, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
          • Oh, right. I'm not too good at that - we need our resident Mr "Anakin Skywalker"...who is it? .... 03:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Erm, you lot do know that no consensus was reached, and if you want to be technical, the againsts votes beat the ,erge votes. So no merge is to take place. Darth Abeonis Sith Council (Sith Campaign) 08:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Take a good hard look at the page, bud. Not only to the merges outweigh the againsts, but if no consensus is reached, revert to policy. Here's the link, just in case you can't find it. .... 09:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
    • For merge: 22. Against merge: 23. Darth Abeonis Sith Council (Sith Campaign) 09:31, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Look closer before I have to make you look like a complete idiot. .... 09:32, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
        • OK that's probably a bit rude, but I strongly advise that you look at that page a tad close before you continue. .... 10:03, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
          • To put it more politely, if you look at the actual vote, rather than the numbers next to each line, you'll see that 3 votes were crossed out, meaning that the total for "keep separate" was only 20. Regardless, as stated by Sikon, consensus is not just a straight majority vote. We have our policy, let's follow it. QuentinGeorge 10:12, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
            • So, now that we've got a temp page set up, what next? .... 10:14, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
            • Ok, moving and merging is done. Now the page needs to be tidied up and made sure to be complete. QuentinGeorge 10:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
              • So do we just dump the temp page into the main article? .... 10:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
              • No need. I moved your temp page here, so Anakin Skywalker now has the merged text you created. QuentinGeorge 10:28, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
                • And so it is. Commons sense prevails! .... 10:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
                  • I knew this was going to happen some day... I just thought I wouldn't be around to see it actually happen. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 12:07, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
                    • I didn't know whether the page would be merged or not, but now that it is, I'm just glad I had a part in making it happen. It is a little messy, But it's probably going to be the next IDrive anyhoo. -Solus 14:31, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
  • To clarify, both Anakin Skywalker/temp and Darth Vader/temp now contain the old content, as it was before the merge, complete with revision history. By the way, please don't start changing [[Darth Vader]] to [[Anakin Skywalker|Darth Vader]]. Don't worry about performance, redirects are cheap; it's a waste of time - and it will produce another one to change them back should the articles get separated again. - Sikon 14:56, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personality pic

In the 'Personality' section, there is no pic. I've looked around and thus far found nothing that would fit. Does anyone know of a pic that would go well in this section? -Solus 20:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Maybe a creepy image of a green-eyed, hooded Vader from ROTS? - Sikon 20:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Do we even need any more pictures? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Sikon: Maybe. Jack Nebulax: As for pics, I agree the whole article is extremely image-heavy, and in places we definitely need to trim down. But for continuity's sake, the Personality section looks odd without a pic, as every other section has a pic. -Solus 21:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Well, we should just move an image down or up into that section. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 23:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
          • Never thought of that, but it works for me. I'll go image-hunting and see what I find -Solus 01:41, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
            • All right, I've gone through it and here are some images that might do. I don't want to snatch them out without forewarning or a choice between them, so here they are:

Skywalker-Defeats-Dooku.jpg

Whaddya think? As for my opinion, I like the first one, but which does everyone else think would fit? -Solus 01:49, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Eh...I don't really go for any of them. .... 01:53, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
    • I'd go for the first one, just to get it out of the Appearances section. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 12:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
      • I know they aren't great, but I had to choose pics out of a densely populated part of the article. That narrowed it down a lot. If there are any pics anyone thinks will work (and if out of the article, then a image-heavy place) then feel free to add them. And if not, are there any objections to using the first image? -Solus 14:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Impassioned Jedi found a perfect pic to go in the Personality section, in my opinion, so I think this discussion's closed. -Solus 01:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Galactic Emperor thing (cont from Talk:Darth Vader)

  • Here's another piece of evidence from SOTE - when Palpatine left Coruscant to inspect the Death Star...or something (I can't remember), Vader became acting Emperor in his stead. Gotta count for something....... 00:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
    • How is it worded? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 00:53, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Oh, it's not worded - in the last...I don't know...five chapters of SOTE, Vader is actually in control of the whole Empire. He even kills Xizor against Palpatine's wishes, and without his consent. I think...in a holoconference between the two, Xizor points out that Palpatine didn't want him dead, and Vader states that Palpatine is not here, and that he is in charge of the Empire. Pretty damn significant. .... 00:58, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Pestage was basically in charge of the Empire as well during that time. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 00:59, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
          • If so, Pestage would have been acting Head of State. But he wasn't. .... 01:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
            • But Pestage took command of the Empire after Palpatine's death. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 12:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
              • Yeah, but Vader was dead then too. .... 22:28, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
                • Jack? We're up here now because of a messy talk page merge. .... 22:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
                  • But here's the thing: Palpatine didn't have an heir. Sure, he was Palpatine's apprentice, but that didn't make him his automatic heir. Sith heir, yes, but not heir of the Empire. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 00:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline

How do we know Anakin went to Nelvaan before he went to Tythe?

  • Because the majority of sources say that he went directly from Tythe to Coruscant. For example, in Star Wars: Complete Locations, on the Second Battle of Coruscant page, it says "Recently returned from action on Tythe..." or something like that. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 20:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Thank you, but can you give me another one because recently is an opinion.--Herbsewell 21:14, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
      • The New Essential Chronology has "Both Anakin and Obi-Wan had been occupied elsewhere per Sidious's design, pursuing Count Dooku on the ruined world of Tythe. They leapt to Coruscant's defense in their Jedi starfighters." This comes in the section following the one which includes the events on Nelvaan. jSarek 22:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Uh, Herbsewell, "recently" was used in Comple Locations and therefore not an opinion. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 00:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
          • "Recently" is always an opinion unless specifically defined. jSarek 10:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
            • Not true. In that sentence, it is a fact. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) 14:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
              • Recently is subjective Jack, no matter how much you want to see it differently, such as "recently Anakin became a Jedi knight". Thank you JSarek for giving me a time line instead of an arbitrary statement--Herbsewell 16:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
                • Exactly. "Recently" *cannot* be a fact, no matter who or what uses the term, unless the term is specifically defined in relation to testable things. It's wholly dependent on point of view otherwise. Oh, and you're welcome, Herbsewell. ;-) jSarek 22:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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