Contents 1 Notes 2 Image 3 Merge with BTL Y-wing starfighter? 4 Appearances 5 Battlefront 2 6 X-Wing Alliance?

NotesEdit

Just a note about my edit. In SotME, Leia and Threepio are traveling in a two-seater Y-Wing when they're forced to land on Mimban. I believe this is the earliest appearance ever of a two-seater Y-Wing (the ones in the movie were one-seaters). It doesn't specifically name them as -S3, but being a two-seater there's no doubt in my mind that's what was meant. - Rebel Dragon 04:41, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

• There's a two-seater Y-wing in the Holiday Special. Didn't that come out before SotME? Gonk ^(Gonk!) 16:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Let me look at some dates. Hmmm.... SotME, according to the inside credits page I'm looking at, was first published in hardcover in February, 1978 (softcover in April of the same year). The Holiday Special was aired in November of '78, according to its article on the site. I do believe that makes SotME the first appearance by a few months. - Rebel Dragon 02:38, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Cool. I knew SotME was early, I just didn't realize it was that early. Gonk ^(Gonk!) 11:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

ImageEdit

I'm looking for an image for this page. I beleive it is the same Y-wing that is in Star Wars: Battlefront II, but i don't know if there are sources supporting it, however the Y-wing in BFII is a two man craft, fitting this description. SW:ICS is also a source listed. I don't have my ICS with me, can someone check theirs and see if there is a graphic that can be scanned?--MIS Tau 1 21:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

• • There isn't. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 21:17, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Jack, I see that's from SWG, I don't own the game, how do you know that's the S3 model?--MIS Tau 1 12:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
      • What are you talking about? I didn't upload that image. Thire 4477 uploaded it. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 14:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
        • Jack my bad man, I must have misinterpreted the edit text--MIS Tau 1 17:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
          • Seems to be another Y-wing pic up there, anyone know where it's from, and can prove it's an S3 model?--MIS Tau 1 18:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
            • I already removed it, because only one individual can be seen in the cockpit, plus there is no source on the image file to show that it is a BTL-S3. - JMAS 18:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Merge with BTL Y-wing starfighter?Edit

That article already discusses the variants and how they differ from one another. jSarek 00:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

• Absolutely. The main page has more info, too Toprawa and Ralltiir 00:52, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
  • No. If we would do that, then all the different X-wing articles would have to be merged into the T-65 article. I think keeping these articles separate is best. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 00:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
    • If this article can be expanded, and perhaps imaged, I think it should stay, if not it should be merged. I agree with Nebulax' concern, but this is only a paragraph, I don't think it should effect the X-wing's pages, but I haven't looked over them.--MIS Tau 1 14:02, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
      • Or, we just take the information on the BTL-S3 from the main Y-wing article and put it on this article. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 14:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
        • Okay, I've updated the S3 page with all the info from the main page. It could probably benefit from a picture. Also, I know I've read somewhere that the S3 was the variant used in the Battle of Yavin, but only one pilot was assigned to each ship due to crew restraints. Can anyone confirm this and include this into both articles? Toprawa and Ralltiir 15:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
          • Maybe one or two were like that, but all the ones with a cockpit shot in the film aren't BTL-S3s because there's no room for a second pilot. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 16:36, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
            • As for pictures, the Y-wings in Splinter of the Mind's Eye (comics) and Masquerade are two-seaters. jSarek 22:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
              • This is from "The Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels"...the Y-wing starfighter page has the subtitle "Koensayr BTL-S3 Y-wing Attack Starfighter," which implies that this model was the most commonly used variant, and goes on to confirm this later on the page, which I have just added. The page discusses the Y-wing primarily as if the S3 is THE model when simply referring to a Y-wing, and that the single-seated A4 version is secondary. Concerning the ship variant used at the Battle of Yavin, it simply says that "Their limitations were made abundantly clear at the Battle of Yavin: only one fighter from Gold Squadron survived the battle"; and "Two squadrons of Y-wings were used at the Battle of Yavin, where the first Death Star was destroyed." From the subtitle, and the way the A4 is referred to as being secondary compared to the S3, I'm not sure it's exactly safe to assume that this indeed was the model used at Yavin, but this page sure seems to imply this, despite what model is seen in the movie. Certainly, this source isn't good enough to supercede what is seen in the movie, but I would like to go back into the film and get a good look at all the Y-wings in the hangar bay just prior to the battle as the pilots are climbing into them. I will post here again after having done so. In the meantime, it would be nice if someone could get a good picture of an S3 so that the cockpit can be compared with the A4. Toprawa and Ralltiir 22:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
                • After reviewing the scenes from "A New Hope", it is my professional opinion that these are indeed S3s, but of course I have no proof. If you look first at the scenes in the hangar prior to lift off, specifically the scene where Luke confronts Han about just leaving with his reward you can definitely see the size of the Y-wing cockpit. Another scene just before the lift off shows a crewman closing the cockpit of a Y-wing with the pilot inside. In both shots, there is definitely room for a second gunner in the back. Additionally, when you look at the shots of the pilots actually inside the Y-wing cockpits during the battle, if you look to the port side windows of the cockpit, you will see two definitive windows: one where the pilot sits, and one where a second person, the gunner, would sit in the back. If you look at the starboard window in the far back of the cockpit, there is substantial room in the rear of that cockpit to hold a second person. Toprawa and Ralltiir 18:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
                  • No. In BTL-S3s, pilots sit back-to-back. In A New Hope, the Y-wings cannot be BTL-S3s because there is a targetting computer directly behind the pilot where the co-pilot/gunner would sit in a BTL-S3. Your theory is incorrect, Toprawa and Ralltiir. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 19:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
                    • Fair enough. Not that I doubt what say, but where did you learn that the gunners face back to back? I was unaware of this, though it makes sense when considering the T-47. Toprawa and Ralltiir 19:54, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
                      • Comics, for one. I'm pretty sure other sources say—or show—so as well. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 19:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

AppearancesEdit

Is this the version of the Y-wing which is in all the video games (ie Star Wars: X-wing Alliance), or it is the single-seat version? Corellian Premier 18:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

• No, there is a mixture throughout the games. Lieutenant J.J 22:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Lieutenant J.J

Battlefront 2Edit

Surely BF2 is a source for the weapon modifications? Lieutenant J.J 22:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Lieutenant J.J

• Games can be tricky as the game mechanics will often shift stats for balance of play, rather than accuracy to source material. Dangerdan97 22:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

X-Wing Alliance? Edit

This two-seater turret version of the Y-Wing was not used in X-Wing Alliance. In the game, the Ion cannons were always locked in the forward position, and no one ever sat in the cockpit with you, even on the training missions. In fact, I think that the cockpit interior has the targeting computer in it, which has been mentioned above would take up the space that a gunner would be sitting in. I'll check the game and verify about the targeting computer, and if so, move the reference to the BTL-A4 Y-wing starfighter page. KievanMereel 23:49, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I checked X-Wing Alliance, and there is no space behind the pilot for a gunner (it is filled with equipment), so I am moving all references fro XWA to the BTL-A4 page. KievanMereel 00:15, October 10, 2009 (UTC)