Does anyone have an image to replace that tacky CGI one? The CTD image would suffice. --SparqMan 23:31, 12 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Not to mention that that image is a completely incorrect fan design. I've actually found an online image of the K-wing as it appears in the NEGVV (from a Japanese-language site, of all places). We already post lots of images taken from official sites, but what is the policy for images that were scanned and cleaned up by other fans, for their own sites? From reading Curtis Saxton's FAQ at SWTC, he considers this to be image poaching and plagiarism. I've also seen some other people react negatively to the copying of images from others' sites. Would uploading this image (perhaps with a link or some other kind of aknowledgement in the article) be considered wrong? JimRaynor55 06:54, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Saxton cracks me up on that. I do not support the idea that a scanned version of an image you believe is defendable under fair use to be a violation of any rights. On the other hand, we can just use the image you've linked above. That is not just a Japanese fan site, it's the official Starwars.com Japanese site. --SparqMan 11:59, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Or, someone with the NEGVV and a scanner could post their own scan. I can do it if nobody else wants to, though it might take me a while. -- Darth Culator 13:34, 18 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Or, it might not take me a while. Scanned at 600 DPI, filtered, isolated, cropped, resized to roughly 96 DPI. Took about 30 minutes, so I'd hate to have to do it for many more of these. -- Darth Culator 00:05, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thumbs up, damn smooth scan, Scully. --Imp 00:10, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Wookification 2 Disadvantage? 3 Turbolasers!?!?!? 4 Title 5 availible durning the reborn emporer crisis? 6 Koensayr Manufacturing? 7 Confusing disadvantage 8 Awkward Resemblence

Wookification Edit

...is in progress. Please stand by. 8-) -- Darth Culator 00:29, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• waits for Darth to realize that JSarek beat him to it* MarcK 01:06, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)
  • Whoops, sorry. I started on wookifying the article before our resident Sith Accountant posted this. ;-) jSarek 01:11, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)
    • Well, now we've both had a hand in it. I referred to the NEGVV and the BFC to clean up some details, and edited the tense and style a bit. Hope the result is agreeable. :) -- Darth Culator 01:33, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)
      • Quite agreeable. jSarek 01:40, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Disadvantage? Edit

"The clear disadvantage to this system was that once a K-wing fired its last physical weapon, it was limited to its short-range laser arms until it returned to a docking bay to rearm." I've read the NEGVV, and it does indeed say something like this. However, isn't that disadvantage true for EVERY fighter? It's not like ships have infinite internal space for proton torpedoes. This claim originates from Michael P. Kube-Mcdowells unofficial Black Fleet Crisis FAQ, which the NEGVV author seems to have borrowed some ideas from, while contradicting on some other details. The FAQ originally claimed that the K-wing had no permanent weapons at all, and that its armament only came in the form of externally-carried missiles. If this idea was retained in the NEGVV, then the statement about the K-wing's disadvantage would hold true. However, the NEGVV author did a sloppy job, adding the turbolaser and laser turrets while keeping the statement about the K-wing's disadvantage. Although it's printed in an official source, this statement contradicts facts in the same book, and makes no sense. Should we remove it? JimRaynor55 06:05, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)

• • The question is, how seriously can we take that FAQ? I'd like to add a "behind the scenes" section noting the specs the author wrote, as was done with the names of the Grand Admirals' personal ISDs based on Daniel Wallace's comments. -- Darth Culator 12:54, 19 Jul 2005 (UTC)
    • The K-Wing's purpose is to hammer capital ships and bases with big huge bombs and missiles. Once those are gone, all it has left are its defensive lasers, and those aren't going to do very much against a capital ship. It can still defend itself from other fighters, but it can't do its primary mission (bombing the everloving snot out of stuff with physical warheads) anymore. Most other fighters' primary missions are to eliminate enemy fighters and bombers and can do just fine once they are out of missiles.--Commander Mike 02:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Well said. Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Turbolasers!?!?!? Edit

Ok the bottom turret is supposed to hold 4 turbolasers? I dont think a fighter could hold that much energy output. I'm thinking standard laser cannons. -Bwingfreak 24:41, 17 Jan 2006

• The New Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels says Turbolasers. Personally I hate it, as the K-wing wasn't meant to have any energy weapons at all...but if it says it, it's canon. -Jaymach Ral'Tir 08:19, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah too bad...-Bwingfreak 03:18, 18 Jan 2006

Yeah, those are just regular quadlaser cannons. Pretty darned effective against starfighters approaching from the rear.

• The NEGVV did a lot of stupid things. They idiotically parroted the arbitrary 12.8 km length for the Executor, they reprinted the CR90 corvette schematic which has been visibly wrong for years, they identified a Liberty-class Mon Calamari cruiser as Home One, and that's just what I can think of off the top of my head. —Darth Culator (talk) 14:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

So your saying that the K-wing's "chin" turret should really have quad-lasers instead of quad turbolasers. It would be a whole heck of a lot more possible. I know what you mean by the Liberty-Home One fakie. Total mess up. And the Executor's length is really like 17.9 km.........-Bwingfreak 16:33, 18 Jan 2006

• The K-wing shouldn't have any lasers at all. Before the Storm specifically says they have no energy weapons installed, just optional slugthrowers on the hardpoints. They're also supposed to have the cockpit lined up like the Y-wing, not side-by-side. —Darth Culator (talk) 23:23, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, but supposedly the separate cockpits are later mods, like the quadlasers?

So its incorrect but canon? -Bwingfreak 19:20 Jan

• Until someone fixes it in a later publication. Which is entirely possible, since they eventually fixed the incorrect length and designation of the Executor, the incorrect sizes of the Death Stars, and other inconsistencies. —Darth Culator (talk) 01:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm changing them to laser cannons because in the stats section it says lasers not turbolasers. Its a change for the better. -Bwingfreak 16:33, 18 Jan 2006

• And I have changed it back because it says turbolasers in an official source. We can't pick and choose what we like. -Jaymach Ral'Tir 23:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
  • On the other hand, the Black Fleet Crisis novels, which aren't any less cannon than NEGVV, say no energy weapons at all (though it should be possible to mount lasers on some of the hardpoints). Contradictory canon sources means we don't know the cannon status of the K-Wing's weaponry. I'm inclined to go with Kube-McDowell's novels, since he's the one who created the K-Wing, while the NEGVV article is just W. Haden Blackman (mis)interpretting what Kube-McDowell wrote about the fighter. But that's just me. 68.47.234.131 17:07, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

My lasers came officially. If you have the book mentioned earlier look near the bottom section of the right-hand side k-wing page. it says laser cannons. I'll leave the changing to you. -Bwingfreak 23:02 Jan 30, 20006

• • Don't forget the A-wing's being listed as 9.6 meters long.... Jwebb13 23:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Please stop posting in the middle of discussions. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 00:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
      • If you accept the H-wing's canonicity, then it looks like a clear predecessor to the K-wing, cockpits abreast and all. – Brynn Alastayr 18:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
        • What are you talking about? Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 20:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

TitleEdit

The word "assault" is currently included in the title. The K-wing is an assault fighter just like the Y-wing and the B-wing. I think that either all of them should have "assault" in the title, or none of them should, for consistency. If we're going to be really specific with the other starfighters (going into "light interceptor"), then I'm leaning towards putting the word in all their titles. JimRaynor55 16:37, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

• I'd say that would be the best thing to do. Admiral J. Nebulax 20:01, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

availible durning the reborn emporer crisis? Edit

Was the K-wing availible to the new republic durning the Conflict with the new emporer?

• No. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 19:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Koensayr Manufacturing? Edit

I read somewhere that the K-wing was made by Sienar something something, and was one of their only designs for the New Republic.

• No, I don't think there's any canon to that. Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 11:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

It uses the BTL-S8 designation, similar to the BTL-S3/BTL-A4 for the Koensayr-built Y-wing. Definitley built by Koensayr.

Confusing disadvantage Edit

Is anyone else thrown by the K-wing not having its own hyperdrive? I didn't even notice at first, I'm so used to seeing them on Rebel/New Republic ships. For as important as having hyperdrive-equipped starfighters was to the Rebellion, I'm amazed that they'd use a fighter that didn't have one, especially one designed to be an assault starfighter anyway. The New Republic may have many more resources, but a hyperdrive-capable K-wing would be perfect for their kind of hit-and-fade operations. Jwebb13 23:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

• Why is it an issue? So what if the New Republic didn't put a hyperdrive in it? Fleet Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 00:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
  • I would buy New Republic, but not Galactic Alliance. – Brynn Alastayr 18:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Jack Nebulax, why do you have to be so rude? Viper ^{(GAR Holonet)} 20:19, 11 April, 2007

No hyperdrive means you need to have a carrier insystem.That puts a lot more crew at risk than deploying a few bombers.

Awkward Resemblence Edit

The ENTIRE shape of the fighter strongly resembles a Heavy Missile Platform. it is very possible the K-wing was built to resemble the HMP, due to the 20+ year difference. Does anyone else agree with me? --Darth shohet 16:50, 28 February 2009 (UTC)