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21 April 2006 Featured article
18 March 2007 Featured article review Removed
1 April 2007 Former featured article
Current status: Former featured article

The Wikipedia article has some good stuff worth moving over. See: Wikipedia:Battle_of_Kashyyyk. It would also be nice to remove that list of "participants" and integrate it into the body. --SparqMan 07:02, 31 Jul 2005 (UTC)

  • Does anyone have a detailed summary of Star Wars Republic 81, 82, and 83 for me? I am going to expand this page--wattamb2000
    • Those comics aren't even out yet. QuentinGeorge 12:19, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
      • There could still be a source for a summary.--wattamb2000
        • They're not even finished yet. Are you an idiot? QuentinGeorge 22:29, 20 Aug 2005 (UTC)
        • There's no need for name calling. We are not Sith here. Also, there could be rumours out and about. SFH

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[edit] Attichitcuk

What the hell?!? Itchy was involved in the Battle of Kashyyyk? Where is this documented? Adamwankenobi 11:11, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

  • ROTS Incredible Cross-Sections, and the VD as well, if I'm not mistaken. QuentinGeorge 11:13, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Sorry for my ignorance, but what are you referring to with "VD?" Also, should we list him as appearing in ROTS then? Adamwankenobi 11:30, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Visual Dictionary, and no; Quinlan Vos participated in the Battle of Kashyyyk but is never seen in the movie, so we wouldn't put an appearance in Episode III for him. MarcK 12:10, 2 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Icthy was throwing thermal detonators from the back seat of a Catamaran which was co-piloted by his son, Chewie. General Nai

[edit] Delta Squad

Shouldnt They be commnaders, "It was their Recon, their intellegence that verified this opperation"-revan

  • They were participants. --SparqMan 04:00, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • With out them they wouldnt know of an alliance-revan
      • May i make an article about the Deltas operation on Kashyyyk? it lead up to the battle, and the end of the operation was the beginning of the Battle of Kashyyyk.

[edit] Darth Vader

Darth Vader was a commander for the Republic in this battle? --SparqMan 04:14, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)

  • In reference to the Wookiees vs. Empire battle seen in Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader. My thoughts? That should be under a totally different battle altogether. QuentinGeorge 05:00, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
  • Agreed, since the battle where Darth Vader and the 501st attacked Kashyyyk was during Imperial Era and it was fought between the Empire and Wookiees, thus it doesn't fit in this article. --Mr. Perfection 11:10, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Deffo, seeing as there was a 5-6 week lull inbetween the two battles. I've removed the Dark Lord info and I'll set about refitting it into a Battle of Kashyyyk (Imperial Era) article. Tam 15:49, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)
    • Done, just need someone to edit the battlethingy Revan 19:04, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Conclusion

Doesn't recent material make it clear that the clones remained behind and fought the Wookies?--The Erl of Kashyyyk

  • Dark Lord reveals the clones left following Order 66, but returned a couple of months later, captured a load of Wookiee slaves and bombarded Kachirho, Rwookworro and other tree-cities - Kwenn 16:18, 6 Jan 2006 (UTC)
    • Actually, "recent material" reveals that Kashyyk was LOST to the Separatists following Order 66. Apparently using all of your army's resources trying to kill your supreme field commanders in the middle of a pitched battle against the enemy isn't the best idea? My source is Star Wars: Complete Locations, page 109 specifically. Crowe 20:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved

I moved the page to Second Battle of Kashyyyk because a different battle is the final level in the Star Wars Battlefront story mode. Bly1993 20:13, 13 Jan 2006 (UTC)

  • As you already know, I'm voting the First Battle of Kashyyyk page for deletion. I've renamed this page "Battle of Kashyyyk (Clone Wars)". Wolfdog 15:29, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confederacy Victory?!

OK, I know that "Complete Locations" mentions that the Confederacy nearly won this battle, but I don't know if it (or any other source) actually 100% confirms that they won. TIEPilot051999 05:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

  • The droids may not have taken full control of Kashyyyk, but as far as Kachirho goes they lost. It's really rather inconsequential since the CIS only holds the planet for, what, 2 days? Besides, the article seems to give a rather nice blend of both victory and defeat for either side. In warspeak, the CIS indeed won the battle, though I'm sure the Empire swooped in rather easily after the droids were deactivated some 48 hours later. No worries. Crowe 19:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
    • I'm not too sure I want to believe that... TIEPilot051999 20:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
      • Well, until it's confirmed as otherwise I say we keep it as it is, since having a partially confirmed CIS victory is better than a likely-but-assumed REpublic victory. Right? Crowe 23:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AT-ST?

I see someone put them in the infobox. Now, having removed them from the next Kashyyyk battle (from Dark Lord) due to no reckognisable references there, I ask for the same in this article. Where are they mentioned? VT-16 13:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

EDIT: Seems this is a reference to the comic adaption's use of the top-less scout walker. I guess it can be specified as that, but I'd like to know if there's any reference to the more familiar model. :D VT-16 07:01, 7 April 2006 (PDT)

  • Whoever put that there is probably confusing a throwaway line in the Revenge of the Sith novelization as taking place specifically on Kashyyyk. It states something like "Clone gunners turned traitor to their former commanders; AT-STs swiveled their turrets towards their heroic counterparts; Juggernauts fired on their closest leader." It's really just a way of telling the reader what is happening as Order 66 is implemented, since writing a paragraph for Aayla Secura, writing a paragraph for Plo Koon, writing a paragraph for Ki-Adi etc. would've been extremely unwieldy. Just my two credits. Crowe 07:05, 7 April 2006 (PDT)
    • Oh yeah, I remember that line. They never did say which planet that happened on, and with the three Jedi on Kashyyyk being attacked by things other than AT-STs, it can't have been there. VT-16 14:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split?

I've heard that the NEC establishes at least two separate battles of Kashyyyk, one being the earlier Delta Squad mission, and one being the ROTS one. This squares several goofs, like Grievous showing up, Tarfful being on-planet instead of Coruscant, etc, from RepCom, as well as in-game dating of day 700-something of the Clone Wars. This article seems to have collected every Kashyyyk reference during the Clone Wars into one battle, and I'm not sure that's proper. Maybe this needs to be split up? Havac 22:53, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


I agree. I always thought that this was the reason Yoda had "good relations with the Wookies," and also may explain why Tarrful came to him for help. --ElaarFett 01:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

To whoever managed to compromise both outcome viewpoints in the article, all I have to say is thanks. Hopefully now I won't have to keep changing it and we can keep it as is. After all, that's the last thing we'd want in a featured article. Crowe 13:48, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In the movie

What happened to the wookies after the battle?

Master Nikolce 23:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

They won the battle with the help of the Clone troopers. Then the New Order was established, and the Rights of Sentience abolished. The clones returned and enslaved most of the Wookiees. Luckily I think they were freed during the time of the New Republic or something. Nick sponge 17:44, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On the ground

How can the Battle of Kashyyyk be battled on the ground? I thought that the ground level are the Shadowlands, and only the bravest of Wookiees go there, and when going through the rite of manhood. Okay, the beach might not have predators, but was'nt there a part played on the jungle floor? And someone please answer my question. Nick sponge 20:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Um, can someone please answer this? Nick sponge 17:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

  • The ground level is the Shadowlands, but it doesn't cover the entire planet. Coastal areas are used as port cities. Places such as Rwookworro are built over the Shadowlands, whereas Kachirho is located further from those areas - Kwenn 17:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, now i get it. 70.68.162.3 05:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


Sorry, that was me. Forgot to sign in. Nick sponge 05:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

    • Also, Kachirho is on an island, away from the actual mainland. See this discussion for more info. -LtNOWIS 05:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I think i asked that question in senate hall! they told me to ask again here. Nick sponge 14:23, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Imperial or Republic?

Who won this battle in the end: the Empire or the Republic? Had Palpatine declared the Republic an Empire by the time the battle was over? I always assumed it to be the Republic, as by the time Yoda reached his pod the battle was over, and Palpatine hadn't declared the Republic over yet, methinks. Unit 8311 12:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date of Delta Squad Mission to Kashyyyk

Everywhere on the site, the date of Delta Squad's mission is stated as being 19 BBY, right before the outbreak of the battle. However, in the game it's stated as being "Clone Wars - Day 785", a little more than two years after the Battle of Geonosis. Since the Battle of Geonosis occured in the middle of 22 BBY, wouldn't that date the Mission to Kashyyyk as being around the middle of 20 BBY?

At the end of the game, however it shows the republic invasion being led by Yoda. The battle shown in the movie clearly occured in 19 BBY, the final year of the Clone Wars. However, General Grevious appears twice. If this mission occured in 19 BBY, right before the outbreak of the battle, he would be in hiding on Utapau.

I'm not familiar with any of the other EU information about the Battle of Kashyyyk, but the only explanation I can think of is that Yoda must have led the initial Republic invasion of Kashyyyk in 20 BBY. The war raged on for a year, centered around Kachiro. In 19 BBY, he returned with reenforcements for the final battle.

I'd appreciate any input anyone else has about this. It seems to be a serious anachronism. 75.67.142.56 01:28, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Similarities

Am I the only person who thinks this battle looks a little like D-Day? (65.34.164.133 12:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC))KIng Maakel

I thought the same thing when I first saw it; although, I would have assumed George would have switched the paralleled roles if he intended it to be an allusion to D-Day. I can't see the Clones and Wookies being Nazis any more than I can see the Droid Armies representing the Allied Forces. Flag-Waving American Patriot 21:02, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Image

Hey, I took this from the Republic Commando game. Is there anywhere it can be used? [[1]] JoJoTrue 03:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I like it, but some people may complain about the fact that there is the HUD from Boss' visor in the pic though. Not sure where it would fit best into the article. Flag-Waving American Patriot 22:29, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


Why is Tsui Choi listed as a strength rather than a commander?JustinGann 08:28, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A certain pic on the artice...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:SwampTrooper-ROTS.jpg Why is this on? It's an obvious edit.

ARC Commander Zek 22:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Move?

This is called the Battle of Kachirho in the Insider article Order 66: Destroy all Jedi, perhaps implying there were battles of other cities as well. And since we already have a wealth of articles named Battle of Kashyyyk... why not move this one to "Battle of Kachirho (Kashyyyk)" or something? Makashi Flourish 19:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox picture

The picture in the infobox is a concept art. I all other articles I've read, concept art pictures are only shown in the Behind the Scenes section. So can we really consider a concept art canon? Kaxs 11:35, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

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