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Jangotat
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Karen Traviss, who is officially creating Mando'a, has said at this forum that Jangotat isn't Mando'a, instead, she said: "Tat is Concord Dawn dialect, whatever that language is called." Therefore, Jangotat isn't Mando'a (Besides, the Mando'a word for brother is Vod, not Tat). So I changed the article to reflect that. 151.203.151.111 17:33, 4 Nov 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Cmdr. J. Nebulax 21:05, 4 Nov 2005 (UTC)
Main picture
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Is there anywhere that actually says the pic on this article is actually Jangotat? I know it's from the cover of the book, but that doesn't actually mean it's him. I raise the question, because he's an ARC Trooper and obviously in the pic, he's not wearing ARC Trooper armor. If no one knows of a reference, I think it's best to take it down. — Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) (Bounties) 19:58, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Is it specifically said anywhere that this picture is Corran Horn? No. Is it specifically said anywhere that this picture is Kyp Durron? No. Or is it specifically said anywhere that this picture is Soontir Fel? No. The point here is that we know who these pictures are representing through basic human inference. The picture of A-98 comes directly from the cover of The Cestus Deception in which there is only one clone captain introduced in the novel—A-98. Therefore, looking at the cover, and using inference, one can see the red captain markings of the clone and know that it is the only captain portrayed in the novel—A-98. Clone captains command color = Red. ARC captain command color = Red. Either way, the clone on the back is a captain; and, again, there is only one captain mentioned in the book—A-98. Also, the lack of ARC armor in the image could be explained through the simple fact of artist interpretation of the person who put the images together for the cover. Greyman(Paratus) 02:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, there's only one clone captain there. As to the ARC trooper armor, I don't think Jangotat wore it. He was mixed in with regular troops before the Cestus deployment, and even there I think there were references to all the clones wearing the same armor -- presumably regular armor. For whatever reasons -- keeping a low profile, perhaps (real answer: Barnes didn't know what the hell an ARC was; it's clear from the book he was just told to use one because they were "more normal" and more believable to fall in love) -- he just didn't wear ARC armor. Havac 17:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Roger that. Kind of like how we know this is Boba and not Jango. We should probably annotate somewhere that he didn't wear ARC armor, then, to avoid confusion. Maybe in the "behind the scenes" portion. I'm more inclined to agree with Havoc that the artist didn't know what an ARC trooper looked like, because I've never heard of a case of ARC's not wearing their armor when mixed in with regular troops. They've always been portrayed on tv, comics, and other books always in their armor. That's why their ARC's. ;-) Only in the Republic Commando novels, when they were under cover and infiltrating the training base in Kamino. That'd be like asking a green beret to not wear his beret when mixed in with the regular troops. He'd more than likely jam some blunt object up your rear, you know? — Sadriel Fett
(Mando'a) (Bounties) 23:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Roger that. Kind of like how we know this is Boba and not Jango. We should probably annotate somewhere that he didn't wear ARC armor, then, to avoid confusion. Maybe in the "behind the scenes" portion. I'm more inclined to agree with Havoc that the artist didn't know what an ARC trooper looked like, because I've never heard of a case of ARC's not wearing their armor when mixed in with regular troops. They've always been portrayed on tv, comics, and other books always in their armor. That's why their ARC's. ;-) Only in the Republic Commando novels, when they were under cover and infiltrating the training base in Kamino. That'd be like asking a green beret to not wear his beret when mixed in with the regular troops. He'd more than likely jam some blunt object up your rear, you know? — Sadriel Fett
- Yeah, there's only one clone captain there. As to the ARC trooper armor, I don't think Jangotat wore it. He was mixed in with regular troops before the Cestus deployment, and even there I think there were references to all the clones wearing the same armor -- presumably regular armor. For whatever reasons -- keeping a low profile, perhaps (real answer: Barnes didn't know what the hell an ARC was; it's clear from the book he was just told to use one because they were "more normal" and more believable to fall in love) -- he just didn't wear ARC armor. Havac 17:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. It's a little ridiculous to insist that we can't use the IG-88 pic from ESB to represent any of the four identical (and identically programmed, and networked) models for that droid, then just handwave issues like these because our subjective inference says "Oh, that one must be Jangotat because there's no other reason you'd see clones appearing on a Clone Wars book cover." I'd be fine if the Wook took a softer line on this stuff and let stuff like identical droids and clones be used more freely, but there should be some kind of uniform standard here.--216.45.228.131 23:25, April 18, 2010 (UTC)l
Geonosis Battle
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I was reading the article and had a question about his involvement in the battle of Geonosis. If Jangotat is an ARC Trooper, how did he participate in the battle of Geonosis? The ARC's weren't brought out of stasis until two months after Geonosis, at the battle of Kamino. We even have it in our ARC Trooper article. Just a continuity gee whiz question, I guess. If anyone knows why, it might be some info we should probably add to the article for future reference. — Sadriel Fett (Mando'a) (Bounties) 15:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- I honestly don't know why, since he was an ARC, he was at the battle of Geonosis. Probably just one more continuity error that got through the cracks :S It occurred erroneous to me, as well, when I was writing the article—but, alas, that's what's in book The Cestus Deception, and I recorded the facts, lol.Greyman(Paratus) 16:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Oops, forgot to add a point in above: You are correct in that if anyone knows why, and it's from a canon or trusted source, I would be more than happy to add that into the BtS like Sadriel Fett recommended. Cheers, Greyman(Paratus) 16:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- A-98 is clearly an ARC. However, he was a normal infantry clone given ARC training to fill in the gaps of that division. Ryan Kaufman (7/9/05) Kaufman had a few more things to say about Nate in that thread. Maybe it's useful. --Borsk Fey'lya Talk 16:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I was reading Triple Zero a little bit ago and it said that the Nulls were sent to Geonosis and left Kal Skirata.
- WILDEYE N-25 06:01
CT-96/298
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Should this really be CT-96/298? He's only mentioned as such once in The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia (yet is called A-98 in the "Jangotat" entry), and once in an issue of Star Wars Insider. Every other source uses A-98, which also appears to make the most sense. Makashi Flourish 21:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Son
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I just finished reading The Cestus Deception. Toward, the end, Obi-Wan says to Sheeka Tull that her son will be given "a name, not a number." Then, at the very end, Sheeka thinks to herself (and to Jangotat), "A name, not a number, Jangotat. A-Nine-Eight. I swear." Does this imply that she'll name her son A-Nine-Eight, or am I completely misinterpreting the meaning here? Axinal Convocation Chamber 20:14, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
ct-96/298 is his clone trooper number. A-98 is his alpha trooper number which is derived from last 2 of his clone trooper number as is case with most alpha troopers.
74.195.76.233 17:46, December 14, 2011 (UTC) CT-914