Contents 1 Episode 3 2 Picture found 3 Reversed Name 4 Episode II? 5 Coleman hanging out at the Opera or a different Ongree Jedi? 6 Most likely location of death 7 Jedi Acts 8 Not on the Jedi Council 9 Coleman? 10 Retcon 11 Puppet? 12 Kcaj Originally Pablo-Jill

Episode 3Edit

I thought the Jedi Master in Episode 3 was the same one from Episode 2, Pablo-Jill? --Shane613 18:32, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I think that's an Ongree: Pablo-Jill. TopAce 19:20 18 Oct 2005 GMT +1

• Nope, they are two separate characters, though early Set Diaries called this character Pablo-Jill to begin with (then Sweitt Concorkill, before finally confirming Kcaj) - Kwenn

Picture foundEdit

I have found a picture of him behind Anakin during the Council Meeting. I cropped it and im going to add it. Dylankidwell 01:37, 2 Oct 2005 (UTC)

Reversed Name Edit

Could this Jedi be a honor to some guy called Jack Coleman???

Who's Jack Coleman???

General Secura

I was wondering that a few nights ago as well I thought Coleman Kcaj is Jack Coleman Backwards. Who is Jack Coleman?--Dil 00:52, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC)

He's Robert Coleman's son (Coleman Trebor). He had some work with making the Star Wars episode. You can actually look it up in his article.Rebel Trooper

Jack Coleman is Rob Coleman's son. Rob Coleman was the ILM animation director on the prequels.

Episode II?Edit

Ok where is he in Episode II? The Ongree when Obi-Wan is going to visit Yoda is Pablo-Jill. This is true because there is a picture of him in the Expanded Universe Section of Pablo-Jill in the Databank. I deleted the Episode II appearance and where in the movie because that is not him. That quote was also done bad with like no capital letters and periods and stuff. Cato Neimoidia 21:13, 16 Jan 2006 (UTC)

Coleman hanging out at the Opera or a different Ongree Jedi? Edit

(Links removed: please see http://starwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Coleman_Kcaj&oldid=2638028 for last version with links to these images. —Silly Dan _(talk) 23:51, February 17, 2010 (UTC))

--Rune Haako 06:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

• Well, Pablo-Jill is the only known other Ongree Jedi, but he was dead by that time, so its either Kcaj, or that Ongree Acros-Krik, or another, unknown Ongree. Master Secura

and look who he is with, the Vurk Senator--the very character the VD originally mixed him up with!

Well, isn't he wearing a Jedi robe. So it's my assumption that that's him. User: Cad Bane Owns

Most likely location of death Edit

I'm pretty sure Coleman died in the Jedi Temple when Anakin raided it. Let's just sum up all the Council Members at exactly that time.

Yoda = on Kashyyyk Obi-Wan = on Utapau Plo Koon = on Cato Neimoidia Ki-Adi = on Mygeeto Stass = on Saleucami Kit Fisto = dead Mace = dead Saesee = dead Agen = dead Anakin = turned to the dark side Shaak Ti = present in the Temple Coleman = present in the Temple

So my guess is he dies there. I know i have no sources, but it's just an assumption. Master Secura

• Maybe it'll be the feature on What's the Story or something like that DAWUSS 22:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Jedi Acts Edit

If he was on the Council, he has to have done something worth recognition. Yet, there's nothing in this article. It had to have mention him in something.DarkShroud 02:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Not on the Jedi Council Edit

I've recently written to Rob Coleman about Coleman Kcaj... his response was that the Ongree on the Jedi Council IS Pablo-Jill and that Coleman Kcaj is a Vurk behind Palpatine at the opera in Episode III. Kcaj is named afer Rob's son, Jack. I have a picture of the letter if anyone wants it. I just want to check with someone before I completely change something... User:leialover229

Okay, let's see the picture. No offense, but I think that either Rob Coleman made a mistake, or you're lying. Template:Smile Telos 03:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

• Pablo-Jill was killed before ROTS, so that's impossible.--Rune Haako 03:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Here's the picture. No offense taken, by the way. The information I put out there is completely new and goes against everything we've known so far... I thought that Rob might've been wrong, as well, but it is his son that Coleman Kcaj was named after. Just as a piece of information, the post-it was attached to a picture of Coleman Kcaj (or Pablo-Jill, according to Rob) that I got from this site. If you have any problems reading it or any questions, let me know and I'll get a bigger image. Note(12-19-06): For privacy reasons (I consider even small notes personal) and because of the fact the issue is resolved I've removed the picure.-- User:leialover229

• Sorry, but Rob Coleman alone does not surpass other canon sources. Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 01:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

That's fine. I just felt like I should at least state it somewhere, as it's certainly new information that came from a direct source. Thanks for looking at the issue and clearing things up. User:leialover229

• Should it be put in the behind the scenes about him being named after Rob's son Jack?--Rune Haako 01:42, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I just replaced the section about how Coleman is a reference to Rob Coleman to state that he's a reference to Jack Coleman. User:leialover229

Note that he also mentioned that Kcaj looks just like Coleman Trebor, which is an error as Trebor is an entirely different species.--Valin Kenobi 15:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

He also said that Kcaj was sitting behind Palpatine at the opera house, so chances are there's actually a Vurk there in the movie. Also, would it be appropriate to add a behind the scenes about Rob Coleman vs. canon? I know it doesn't seem like a huge deal, but Kcaj's namesake is Rob's son and I think it should be at least noted. User:leialover229

I just checked and there is a Vurk sitting behind Palpy at the opera... do we know who this is? I know it's not Coleman Kcaj, but if Rob Coleman knows that it's a Vurk and knows the location of it in the movie, chances are it has some significance (seeing as he wasn't aware Pablo-Jill was dead. Any suggestions? User:leialover229

• The Vurk is Sweitt Concorkill.--Rune Haako 23:08, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

That explains things. It looks like Concorkill and Kcaj had originally switched places (Concorkill being on the Council and Kcaj being the Vurk), so that's probably where Rob's confusion comes from- he most likely just isn't aware of the change made. Thanks for clearing things up. User:leialover229

Coleman? Edit

Coleman trebor,Coleman Kjac, is coleman some kind of a rank?--Windu223 14:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

• No, but if you think about it, in a galaxy of quadrillions of individuals, it's inevitable that many will share the same name. In fact, there's probably millions of Colemans out there in the GFFA.--Valin Kenobi 16:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

RetconEdit

• Is it possible that the second Ongree in AOTC is meant to be him in hindsight? Could this be added as another appearence? Purpilia 19:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Puppet? Edit

The article says that Paratus had puppets of all the Jedi council members, including Coleman Kcaj. Was this a direct or indirect mention to Kcaj himself? If it was indirect, that should be mentioned in the Appearances section. —C Teng^(talk) 22:52, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Kcaj Originally Pablo-Jill Edit

Coleman Kcaj was originally supposed to be Pablo-Jill, as they decided that Pablo-Jill would be on the council. But they needed a better model thing (he's digital) for the council member, so it ended up looking different and they made it a new character. They then killed off Pablo-Jill in the Battle of Coruscant. So we really just have another Koth/Kolar Gallia/Allie situation. —Unsigned comment by 99.155.162.214 (talk • contribs).