Talk:Concussion missile
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Concussion missiles aren't necessarily faster and weaker than proton torpedoes. That comes from the X-wing game series, and should be disregarded as a game mechanic. The games were designed to be simple, so they had a small, overly simple selection of warheads, each one more powerful but slower than the last. Proton torpedoes and concussion missiles come in many different sizes, ranging from the small torpedoes on an X-wing, to the 80 heavy missiles on a Victory-class Star Destroyer, to the ultra-heavy, planetary shield-busting torpedoes used by Torpedo Spheres. In the canon ROTJ novelization, the Millenium Falcon's concussion missiles were said to be far more powerful than the proton torpedoes carried by an X-wing. The terms "proton torpedo" and "concussion missile" actually refer to how the weapons work. JimRaynor55 06:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
- agree.--Eion 07:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
- I'm going with what the WEG and EG sources say. If you've got a higher canon source, go with it. --SparqMan 12:34, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
- I remember reading in the guide to weapons and technology (don't have my copy over here; will have access to it in a few weeks) that concussion missiles /are/ weaker. My impression (partially influenced by the games, true) is that proton torpedoes are quite expensive and powerful weapons, often used to attack capital ships. (e.g., the Rebel pilots at Yavin only had one shot each...too pricey for the Alliance to load up each ship fully.) Concussion missiles are cheaper, smaller weapons used against other starfighters. --GenkiNeko 13:25, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
- I know that some EU sources say that proton torpedoes are more powerful, but that's an erroneous statement based on the X-wing games. As I said before, many different WEG and other EU sources mention proton torpedoes and concussion missiles that have a wide range of yields. Those two are just general terms. JimRaynor55 14:06, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
- It's been awhile since anyone has talked about the possible differences in explosive power or destructive capabilities between concussion missles and proton torpedoes but I have something to add. According to the essential guide concussion missles were originaly designed for use in an atmosphere where the explosive change in air pressure from the missle's warhead can create sonic emissions and ground tremors signifigantly add to its destructive abbility. Proton torpedoes were intended for space combat and thier explosive power relies less on the type of atmosphere. It's not a hard rule and difficult to figure out since it is fictional physics but concussion missles are more like real world warheads while proton weapons are generaly described as high-yield proton-scattering warheads(Like much of Star Wars weapons it's light or raw energy based destruction.)--TheLIGHTSABERwieldingNERFHERDER 04:58, 7 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- Both are described as nuclear or thermonuclear (depending on the yeild) warheads. Perhaps a concussion missile is typically unfocused, and a proton torpedo is? that would explain the difference in the way the shockwave develops. --Lowkey
- Is it possible that when missiles are said to be weaker than proton torpedoes, this refers to weapons of comparable size and yeild? For example, the missiles used on VSDs are stronger (goes without saying really) than the torps used by X-Wings, but the missiles small enough to be used on A-Wings are weaker than the X-Wing's torps. That would seem to be a good compromise. 95 Headhunter
- Seems logical to me. Like comparing a sidewinder missile (or other Air to Air warhead) to a Torpedo to an ICBM. Obviously, the Torp has more power then the standard A2A missile, but both pale in comparison to the abilities of the nuclear equipped missile.
- Is it possible that when missiles are said to be weaker than proton torpedoes, this refers to weapons of comparable size and yeild? For example, the missiles used on VSDs are stronger (goes without saying really) than the torps used by X-Wings, but the missiles small enough to be used on A-Wings are weaker than the X-Wing's torps. That would seem to be a good compromise. 95 Headhunter
- Both are described as nuclear or thermonuclear (depending on the yeild) warheads. Perhaps a concussion missile is typically unfocused, and a proton torpedo is? that would explain the difference in the way the shockwave develops. --Lowkey
No one mentioned what the Incredible Cross-Section book says about the Dymek version's ability to destroy enemy shield generators. --Promus Kaa 05:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
I cant help but notice the first line of the article describes them as 'wingless' yet both pictures clearly show guidance and maneuvering fins. Is this something that should be corrected, or am I missing something?Aranykai 08:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
