Contents 1 Title dispute 2 Could this be the same as Revitalize? 3 Not back from death... 4 Kreia Used this in Kotor 2 5 Dark side?

Title disputeEdit

ok, you idiots banned me twice for making this article EVEN THOUGH IT DESCRIBES SOMETHING CANON and said that it had no official name (duh, I knew that, I just needed to title the article something and there are plenty of articles that describe things with no names and are given names so I don't know why some assholes decided to single ME and MY ARTICLE out) so here now it has a title that describes the fact that it is officially unnamed, are you fucking satisfied now? 68.199.35.11 07:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

• How about Force Resuscitation? -- Riffsyphon1024 07:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

• Far better (the title). Well done, my friend. --Squishy Vic

• • THANK YOU, FINALLY! Now can you please fix it so that my Don't Die and Don't Die (skill) pages don't redirect to the page of things that aren't canon anymore now that you know that they are canon? Also can the people who insulted and banned me for making the page over and over please apologize for doing so since it really was canon after all and the page SHOULD have been made over and over and I was right to do so and they were the true 'vandals' for deleting it over and over for being non-canon even though it was? 68.199.35.11 09:03, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
    • 1: There's still no evidence that this is a unique power as opposed to an advanced instance of Force Healing. 2: DBD. -- Darth Culator ^(Talk) 11:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
      • • I forgot about the Force Healing, Culator, though Force Lightning doesn't appear to be a factor in Force Healing, but this isn't pure Force Lightning either. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
          • Should this thing be merged into Force Healing? Also see comments under section "Dark side?"WIERDGREENMAN 03:50, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
• I don't think a merge is applicable here. Regardless of what it is called, this is a unique Force ability of Cade Skywalkers. Even if it is similar to or a variation of other abilities, it is a central plot point of the series and everybody in the comic is falling over themselves to discuss how unique it is. If it was really never called "Dark Transfer," just slap a Template:Conjecture marker on the top and call it a day until we have a better name for it. But debating the merits of the current title when any other title would be just as made up is fruitless. —fodigg ^(talk) | 13:54, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Could this be the same as Revitalize? Edit

They're the same concept, after all. I've never used Revitalize in KotOR II, so I don't know what it looks like in the game, but perhaps both these articles should be merged? —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax ^{(Imperial Holovision)} 17:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

• Well Revitalize is described as being a Light Side force power, while this is riding on the edge of the Dark Side. Also I'm not sure if Cade is actually losing some of his power/energy/life to revive others. The guy is also immune to torture by death sticks. -- Riffsyphon1024 07:51, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

@Riffsyphon: the guy is immune to death-sticks because [of] his recreational use of death-sticks. (he's already used to its effects) (ie. death-sticks' effects on the [human] body). also, as a Jedi (you know what i mean) (he's a Force-user/he has the ability to use the Force/Force-powers), death-sticks have less of an effect on him than [they have] on non-Force-users. 201.224.130.187 18:22, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Not back from death... Edit

This isn't "Force Resurrection". In the comics, Cade can bring people back "from the brink of death", not give life back to someone dead. That's also the point of him being able to heal Syn and Blue; it's radical dark side healing, not the power of resurrection. --Master Starkeiller 13:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

actually, that's where you're wrong, @Master-Starkeiller. Wolf Sazen was already dead. (remember that "the light at the end of the tunnel" thing? not to mention the "one with the Force now" thing). except that, having just been recently killed, there was still a chance [for Cade] to save him. (kind of like when a person is already clinically dead - ie. their heart stops beating - but there's still a chance to save them). that's what happened. 201.224.130.187 00:47, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Also we now know that Cade can use the power to kill, like Cade almost did to Talon. If that is the case, this power needs to be moved to another title. Victor (talk) 04:08, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

 that could just be shatterpoint, as it sounds like he's finding weak points and  exploiting them as shatter point  
 does.

OHMYGAWD so there are already 4 separate sections on this relating to whether or not Cade Skywalker's power that everyone made a huge deal over Legacy is Dark Transfer. I think it is COMPLETE SPECULATION to call it that. Cade has never been referred to specifically as a user of Dark Transfer. His power has always been called some variant of "his healing ability". Also see sections 1, 2 and 5.WIERDGREENMAN 13:24, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Kreia Used this in Kotor 2 Edit

Kreia used this power in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. Remember she used to say, Awaken beast, or awaken whatever (insert name here)? And on Colonel Tobin? Kreia used this.

• I think that's just a powerful version of Force Heal.

No its the same power. Also Darth Plagueis could also use this power for he could "save people from death.

Dark side? Edit

Doesn't Wolf (i think it was him) say in one of the comics that he (Cade) could accomplish the same thing with the lightside if trained right. (75.74.81.83 15:38, 31 May 2008 (UTC))

I think Luke's ghost tells him that actually. 24.119.217.230 17:05, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

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Actually it's both Wolf Sazen and Luke Skywalker that tell him that you could access it through/via/with the Light side. and also, as we all know, theoretically, the Light side has all powers of good. as in, all Force-powers that come from the Light side are of good things, positive things, and/or healing. They are not of destruction, death, power, mayhem, etc (and/or that cause death, destruction, mayhem, etc). examples: Force Absorb is used to counter things like Force Lightning (which (referring to Force Lightning i mean) is causes injury, death, destruction, electrocution, etc. therefore, it's classification as a Dark-side Force-power). Force Protection (like you would see in the computer-game "Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy") is intended to protect you from several things (like acid rain, [physical] projectiles, etc), and/or at the very least decrease damage from those projectiles and other things. another example: Mind-Trick. which is intended to confuse the mind of your opponent, and/or manipulate him in some way (like when Obi-Wan manipulated the minds of the stormtroopers (as well as convincing them into thinking the following) into thinking "that astromech droid we're seeing" (actually R2-D2) "and that shiny gold droid - that looks like a protocol droid - that we're seeing" (actually C-3PO) were not the droids they were looking for. in Episode 4). it's also intended to avoid confrontation, avoid confrontation with an enemy, and avoid confrontation with a possible enemy. (another example was when Qui-Gon Jinn used Mind-Trick to convince Boss Nass to let them "be on their way" and provide them a transport that would very quickly lead them to Theed. remember that Boss Nass was very hesitant to help the Jedi, since they were going to help the Naboo, and the Gungans, up to that point, didn't really have a good relationship with the Naboo. "wesum no like da Naboo. dey tink dey so smartey. dey tink dere brain so beeg").

and Dark-side Force-powers are accessed from raw power, emotion, and/or feelings. that's [pretty much] why Cade [first] accessed this Force-power. he was desperate to save his dying master, and then all of a sudden, [as if out of instinct] ([he] without even thinking it), boom, fzzzzzzzzzz, uses Force-Resuscitation (it has to have a name after all. and so far, that's the best name that can be used to describe this Force-power. which is really not like Force-Healing; it's not accessed in the same way, and, you don't use it in the sense that you heal the person/dead-body until it's alive again. you just, how do i say it, resuscitate him. jump-start him back to life. touch him and he's alive again; boom; like Jesus [has done to people] (pardon me for mentioning something religion-related but you [all] know what i mean)) to resuscitate/bring-back-alive Wolf Sazen.

and i HAVE heard of [and read] the "Dark Transfer" Force power you're talking about, and this isn't it. "Dark Transfer" is something COMPLETELY different. and, not to mention the name: "Dark Transfer" sounds more like something Palpatine would do (ie. like "Transfer Essence", when he (a Sith) (since Sith can't learn the Journal-of-the-Whills method (the one Qui-Gon learned) for preserving your physical body [and essence] in a state even after death. ie. becoming a Force-Ghost. since because, like Qui-Gon said, the method is obtained through Love/with Love. and Sith HATE Love, Affection, and other good and/or positive feelings. They believe it makes them feel weak and/or be weak) transferred his spirit to the body of a bunch of Palpatine clones he had. and later, tried to transfer his spirit to infant Anakin Solo). 201.224.130.187 00:47, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Like 201.224.130.187, I am not sure about this title for Cade's power. In the Legacy comics, has his power ever been referred to specifically as "Dark Transfer"? I can only recall that everyone called it some variant of "Skywalker's healing ability".WIERDGREENMAN 03:47, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

@WIERDGREENMAN: no it hasn't (referring to when you asked "has his power ever been referred to specifically as 'Dark Transfer'?"). and, as any person who knows about Star-Wars knows, the Dark side of the Force is filled only with powers of death, destruction, mayhem, and/or that cause death, destruction, and mayhem; there's no 1 power in there that is used for good and/or that CAN be used for good. (like for example: [a Force-power] that does not cause death and destruction. Force-Lightning electrocutes people, Drain-Essence (aka. Force-Drain) drains a person's Force-energy and Life-energy. like Rogue from the X-Men's mutant power drains a person's Life-essence/Life-energy/etc away from them, Force-Rage bolsters your rage so that your anger, and the adrenaline you get from acting out of anger (and the boost you get from the adrenaline you get while you're acting out of anger), etc etc, bolsters your movements so you move faster and strike harder, etc etc; Force-Choke does exactly what it sounds: it chokes people [as if you had your hand or hands around their throat, and/or were strangling them and/or choking them, etc etc]. You get the idea). every character in the comics, has stated and/or implied, that Cade's Force-power (the one that can revive others [who are already [clinically] dead (aka. their heart has stopped[/their heart has stopped beating])] and/or bring [back] those that are on the verge of death) is a force for good / can[/CAN] be used as a force for good. Light-side powers bring good, healing, good things. Dark-side [Force] powers bring bad, death, destruction, mayhem, you get the drift. and, that's true. in the comics, they (the characters) have only called it some variant[, or something along the lines] of, "Skywalker's healing ability".201.224.130.187 10:40, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

• The article now has the Template:Conjecture tag on it, so if the name is made up it does not really matter. Until we have an official name for it, "dark transfer" will do just fine. —fodigg ^(talk) | 19:52, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
  • Colossal walls of text and replying to 3+ year-old conversations aside, I already went to the trouble of explaining why this was moved and the source for it in the edit history. In the future, it might be a good idea to check that sort of information in advance, to save time and energy. DD97^{Which bear is best?} 05:38, March 14, 2011 (UTC)