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Since we have no idea when Darth Andeddu lived, I think its better if the list is alphabetical, rather than some faux-chronological list. QuentinGeorge 07:20, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)

We know. - Sikon 07:34, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)
No we don't. The wikipedia page is wrong, and purely fan speculation. I suspect it was fanwanked by our old friend KFanII. QuentinGeorge 11:48, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Then I suppose we can make an "Out of chronology" subsection for characters whose placement in the timeline is unknown. - Sikon 12:42, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
So can we, at least, say for sure that Andeddu lived before Revan? If we can't, we should reward the introduction, saying that the earliest Darth is either Revan or Andeddu, depending on who lived earlier. - Sikon [Talk] 11:08, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Origins

I realize that I have no canonical evidence for this, but I going to say it. While Revan may have began the tradition of Darth, I do not believe Revan invented it. I have no evidence for this but one, simple fact.

The Sith loath the Weak.

And why would Revan be considered weak? Because he went back to the light side. Thus, in my opinion, Revan couldn't have created it. I think it must have some older roots in Sith history. This is all just my opinion. You can comment on this, agree with me, poin out mistakes, or just denounce. I just thought I should point this out. -- SFH 00:22, 23 Sep 2005 (UTC)

but why? He could be apart of Bane's order.

  • I know this is a late reply but i'm going to reply anyways. Revan wasn't considered weak by the Sith, not even Malak considered. He said to him on the Leviathian that he had become stronger than ever. Plus Revan's redemption was not his choice. Jasca Ducato 14:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Actually, it -was- his choice - the player (as Revan) has full choice on whether to be evil or good in the game. What Revan had no control over, however, was having to -make- the choice: had his amnesia not been forced upon him, he would have remained evil, but since it was, he had to make the choice all over again. Though I do agree - Revan was not considered weak by -anyone-.

[edit] Quote

Where's that quote come from?

  • A draft AOTC script, apparently. At least I know this line is there. However, this line is non-canon and therefore ill-suited for a quote. - Sikon 18:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darth Infinex ?

Source on this? I almost immediately reverted it as Fanon, but I admit, I've seen dumber Darth names than that in canon sources. So I figure I'll give the benefit of the doubt. Any source on Darth Infinex, anon? Maclimes Zero (talk) 23:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Updating

May I suggest that the page needs to be updated on account of new information? Of significance is the portions relating to the origins of the name. Given that Darth Sunshine was used before Revan and Malak discovered the Star Forge, it's highly unlikely that that's where the name originated. Vryce 10:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Information on that is already included. Note that an early use of the term Darth does not preclude Rakatan origin - the Rakatan influence on Korriban is enough to provide a link. QuentinGeorge 10:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Hah, apologies. This is what comes of reading an article at 4am. Vryce 10:30, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Darth Cerebrus

Is this Canon?-Darth Vindictus

== Is it possible that Darth is the sith (species) word for 'Lord'?

[edit] Vater being Father in Dutch

I just think you needed to know that 'Vater' is the German word for father, and that 'Vader' is litterally Father in Dutch. I know because I am Dutch.

  • And Vader means "Walking" in Danish, add an S (Vaders) and you have our name for rubber boots... Your point? --Dixieboy 23:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revan and Malak

This statement has to go:
"It is worth noting that Revan and Malak used the title along with their given names, and did not adopt new names along with the title as many subsequent Sith Lords would do. Darth Traya was the first known Sith Lord to take an alias after her fall and rechristenment."
It is pure speculation at this point.--Sentry 23:44, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shadow warrior???

"It should also be noted that Darth Means "Shadow Warrior" in the Sith Language." Where on Earth does it come from? Smells like fanon spirit here... LelalMekha 21:12, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

  • It was just added, so I reverted it. -LtNOWIS 21:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image galleries

Are the galleries in the article really necessarily?--Jedi Kasra 23:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Birth name / Sith name

Following on from all this confusion regarding the naming of Kreia, I suggest we in fact go one step further than my suggestion in the Kreia talk page and include both the birth name and Sith name of all Darth characters in the infobox, whether by including them both in the name box or else by dividing it across two seperate infobox categories. This would make the matter of what to call them in the infobox far more objective and less open to personal opinion. --Kessel 12:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Darth Sion

I have question. Acording to Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide, Darth Sion took his sith name in the great sith war (50 years before Revan and Malak took the title of Darth). I know that in the last kotor comic, Haazen speculated that Lucien could become sith named Darth Sion. Sure, the story of kotor still continues and everything could be different but for now, there are two sources both of them with different info about this character but both with one same thing. Darth Sion had his title of Darth before Darth Revan and Darth Malak. So I ask. Why not to place Sion on the first place Before Darth Revan (or Hayze)? Because he was before them and thus predating them. What do you think? --ScorpiO 08:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

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